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<br />531 : [13:41] <@fardad> hello
<br />532 : [13:41] <JQuan> hi
<br />533 : [13:41] <cgm87> hi
<br />534 : [13:41] <Ray_> yo
<br />535 : [13:41] <TonyKim> Hello
<br />536 : [13:41] <Han3> hi
<br />537 : [13:41] <adgezaza> hai
<br />538 : [13:41] <lwang168> hi
<br />539 : [13:41] <Ray_> o hai
<br />540 : [13:41] <Bhavnesh> hey
<br />541 : [13:41] <_YJ_> hi
<br />542 : [13:41] <slaw12> hi
<br />543 : [13:41] <xzhang148> i have log all
<br />544 : [13:41] <iIra> Hi everyone
<br />545 : [13:41] <Vovko> ohai
<br />546 : [13:41] <oleg_pliats> hi everybody
<br />547 : [13:41] <ling_wu> hi
<br />548 : [13:41] <caangus> hello
<br />549 : [13:41] <Ray_> HALLO
<br />550 : [13:42] <OzZy_M> hai2Uall
<br />551 : [13:42] <crgosselin> HAI
<br />552 : [13:42] <@fardad> Ray_: one hello is good :)
<br />553 : [13:42] <sinker> hi
<br />554 : [13:42] <Ray_> okii =)
<br />555 : [13:42] <CloudScorpion> oh geez
<br />556 : [13:42] <CloudScorpion> the kids are gonna lose their minds here
<br />557 : [13:42] <crgosselin> nah we live on msn its all good
<br />558 : [13:42] <OzZy_M> speak for yourself :P
<br />559 : [13:43] <@fardad> Before we begin I want to use this opportunity to go through few point about IRC and the culture of chatting in IRC channels
<br />560 : [13:43] <@fardad> just for everyone to know, the class is now in session
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<br />562 : [13:43] <xlu44> in time
<br />563 : [13:43] <@fardad> irc chat:
<br />564 : [13:43] <xzhang148> please add the svn
<br />565 : [13:44] <CloudScorpion> fardad: perhaps you could mute everyone, then unmute them when you want questions
<br />566 : [13:44] <@fardad> CloudScorpion: mute
<br />567 : [13:44] <@fardad> irc chat rules
<br />568 : [13:44] <@fardad> 1- casual chatting on IRC:
<br />569 : [13:45] <@fardad> when you talk in an IRC channel that is not in a meeting mode, which means no active meetings is happening there
<br />570 : [13:45] <@fardad> you see lots of cross talk between poeple on different subjects
<br />571 : [13:45] <@fardad> to prevent conflict, usually users label their messages
<br />572 : [13:45] <@fardad> CloudScorpion: thanks for being here
<br />573 : [13:46] <@fardad> this means I am talking to CloudScorpion and no one else
<br />574 : [13:47] <@fardad> but when you get into a channel and you see a meeting is happening, then always label your messages and try to limit them to minimum to prevent noise
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<br />576 : [13:47] <@fardad> 2- attending a meeting on IRC:
<br />577 : [13:47] <@fardad> I - try to not do cross talking to everyone understands what is going on
<br />578 : [13:48] <@fardad> but if you have to (have a question or want to say something to someone) then label your massege;
<br />579 : [13:48] <@fardad> OzZy_M: are you ok with this?
<br />580 : [13:48] <OzZy_M> fardad: I'm assuming you do not want to use Queries
<br />581 : [13:49] <@fardad> all: that is the next point
<br />582 : [13:49] <@fardad> if you only want to send one or two messages then labeling is fine
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<br />584 : [13:49] <@fardad> but if you want to have a non-related chat (like when you talk in class when teacher is teaching :) then use /query
<br />585 : [13:50] <@fardad> as you know all commands start with a "/"
<br />586 : [13:50] <@fardad> if you want to open a private chat with someone you type "/query nickname"
<br />587 : [13:51] <sinker> fardad: how do you know when a meeting is taking place in a channel?
<br />588 : [13:51] <@fardad> sinker: good question
<br />589 : [13:51] <xzhang148> fardad:how many persons should in a private chat?
<br />590 : [13:51] <@fardad> sinker: good question
<br />591 : [13:52] <@fardad> the answer is you just know .....
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<br />593 : [13:52] <@fardad> its like when you get in a room and yousee someone is talking an everyone else is listening....
<br />594 : [13:52] <@fardad> then that is a meeting or a lecture
<br />595 : [13:53] <@fardad> xzhang148: to answer your question...
<br />596 : [13:53] <CloudScorpion> he is gonna lose control of it so quick
<br />597 : [13:53] <CloudScorpion> err
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<br />600 : [13:53] <CloudScorpion> ignore that
<br />601 : �03[13:53] * _OZ is now known as OzZy_M
<br />602 : [13:53] <@fardad> CloudScorpion: sure
<br />603 : [13:53] <@fardad> xzhang148: when a privte chat using a /query is only between two
<br />604 : [13:54] <priya_gill> hi sir when is quiz then
<br />605 : [13:54] <@fardad> priya_gill: hi and welcome, we are in a lecture now....
<br />606 : [13:54] <xzhang148> fardad:ok
<br />607 : [13:54] <adgezaza> Vovko: label command test
<br />608 : [13:55] <priya_gill> ok what r we discussing
<br />609 : [13:55] <crgosselin> priya_gill: be quiet like in class, this isn't msn
<br />610 : [13:55] <tdot> fardad id use +m until question time
<br />611 : [13:56] <@fardad> tdot: Thanks tdot, I know, but that is kind of.... dictatorship....
<br />612 : [13:56] <@fardad> I want students to be able to ask questions if they want :)
<br />613 : [13:56] <OzZy_M> and totally open source...
<br />614 : [13:56] <@fardad> ok...
<br />615 : [13:56] <crgosselin> fardad: Please continue with the lecture
<br />616 : �06[13:57] * @fardad is creating a short url
<br />617 : [13:57] <xlu44> sinker
<br />618 : [13:58] <@fardad> ok everyone, if you just joined, today logs are here:
<br />619 : [13:58] <@fardad> http://tinyurl.com/oop344may27
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<br />621 : [13:58] <@fardad> read after 13:40 LABEL
<br />622 : [13:58] <@fardad> http://tinyurl.com/oop344may27
<br />623 : [13:58] <@fardad> OK
<br />624 : [13:59] <@fardad> lets continue
<br />625 : [13:59] <@fardad> IRC meetings II:
<br />626 : [13:59] <@fardad> rule II:
<br />627 : [13:59] <@fardad> if you need to pass a url to others in a meeting, don't use a long url like:
<br />628 : [13:59] <@fardad> http://fardad.com/irclogs/Default.aspx?co=0&log=%23seneca-oop344.freenode.20100527&u1=All+Users&u2=No+One+Else&u3=No+One+Else&u4=No+One+Else
<br />629 : [14:00] <@fardad> but instead use servicesl like tinyurl.com to shorten it to something like:
<br />630 : [14:00] <@fardad> http://tinyurl.com/oop344may27
<br />631 : [14:00] <@fardad> IRC meeting rule III:
<br />632 : [14:00] <oleg_pliats> or bit.ly - it is free one
<br />633 : [14:01] <@fardad> oleg_pliats: thanks
<br />634 : [14:01] <@fardad> rule III:
<br />635 : �06[14:01] * @fardad is preparing some code
<br />636 : [14:03] <@fardad> do not copy and paste code in a chat room
<br />637 : [14:03] <@fardad> doing this is bad:
<br />638 : [14:03] <@fardad> #ifndef __FS_IOF_H__
<br />639 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define __FS_IOF_H__
<br />640 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define PLT_VCC 11
<br />641 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define PLT_BCC 22222
<br />642 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define PLT_LNX 31
<br />643 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define PLT_MAC 434
<br />644 : [14:03] <@fardad> #ifdef PLATFORM
<br />645 : [14:03] <@fardad> # undef PLATFORM
<br />646 : [14:03] <@fardad> #endif
<br />647 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define PLATFORM PLT_VCC
<br />648 : [14:03] <@fardad> void iof_init();
<br />649 : [14:03] <@fardad> void iof_end();
<br />650 : [14:03] <@fardad> void iof_flush();
<br />651 : [14:03] <@fardad> void iof_movcur(int row, int col);
<br />652 : [14:03] <@fardad> int iof_getch();
<br />653 : [14:03] <@fardad> #endif
<br />654 : [14:03] <crgosselin> fardad: god thats annoying
<br />655 : [14:03] <@fardad> instead use sevices like:
<br />656 : [14:04] <Ray_> pastebin?
<br />657 : [14:04] <@fardad> pastebin.com
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<br />659 : [14:04] <@fardad> and pass something like this: http://pastebin.com/ZpdGRWaW
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<br />662 : [14:05] <@fardad> for those who just came in:
<br />663 : [14:05] <@fardad> read http://tinyurl.com/oop344may27
<br />664 : [14:06] <@fardad> to see what we talked about in past 30 mins
<br />665 : [14:06] <@fardad> finaly
<br />666 : [14:06] <@fardad> two improtant ones....
<br />667 : [14:06] <CloudScorpion> important*
<br />668 : [14:07] <Ray_> lol
<br />669 : [14:07] <@fardad> when working on an IRC chat, specially in a opensource project where so many languages are used
<br />670 : [14:07] <@fardad> Never correct another one for spelling, grammer and stuff like that
<br />671 : [14:07] <xlu44> lol
<br />672 : [14:07] <@fardad> since english ir probably there 9th language....
<br />673 : [14:07] <OzZy_M> lol
<br />674 : [14:08] <OzZy_M> Ya i know Javascrip, C, TURING...
<br />675 : [14:08] <@fardad> and if someone try to type correct english, they have to think about spelling more than the topic they are talking about
<br />676 : [14:08] <@fardad> but obviously, if the word is toooooo wrong and you can understant it, then please ask :)
<br />677 : [14:08] <@fardad> the second thing is:
<br />678 : [14:09] <@fardad> every know and then, drop an "OK" , "got it" or something like that, so the lecturer know he is not taling to himself
<br />679 : [14:09] <@fardad> ok?
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<br />681 : [14:09] <@fardad> OK???????????
<br />682 : [14:09] <caangus> ok
<br />683 : [14:09] <Vovko> Ok
<br />684 : [14:09] <crgosselin> "OK"
<br />685 : [14:09] <adgezaza> OK
<br />686 : [14:09] <jaburton1> Okay!
<br />687 : [14:09] <Junseok> ok
<br />688 : [14:09] <Ray_> yessir
<br />689 : [14:09] <cgm87> fardad: ok
<br />690 : [14:09] <slaw12> got it!
<br />691 : [14:10] <TonyKim> ok
<br />692 : [14:10] <_YJ_> ok
<br />693 : [14:10] <acchung1> ok
<br />694 : [14:10] <goldenration> fardad: ok
<br />695 : [14:10] <Han3> Ok
<br />696 : [14:10] <OzZy_M> kk
<br />697 : [14:10] <rhui4> kk
<br />698 : [14:10] <oleg_pliats> got it
<br />699 : [14:10] <iIra> ok
<br />700 : [14:10] <sinker> ko
<br />701 : [14:10] <xzhang148> ok
<br />702 : �06[14:10] * @fardad just wanted to see how many are sleeping in class
<br />703 : [14:10] <Ray_> lol
<br />704 : �06[14:10] * crgosselin sleeps types
<br />705 : �06[14:10] * OzZy_M thinks fardad is a sneaky one
<br />706 : [14:10] <goldenration> ZZZ
<br />707 : [14:11] <@fardad> if you want to state what you are thinking use /me in third person:
<br />708 : [14:11] <xlu44> oki
<br />709 : [14:11] <cgm87> ah
<br />710 : �06[14:11] * @fardad is letting students know what is /me
<br />711 : [14:11] <xlu44> im not sleeping yet
<br />712 : �06[14:11] * adgezaza wants to test
<br />713 : [14:11] <@fardad> and /me will be replaced with your nick name
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<br />715 : �06[14:11] * rhui4 testing
<br />716 : �06[14:12] * Junseok is Junseok. (testing)
<br />717 : �06[14:12] * cgm87 thinking
<br />718 : �06[14:12] * tdot likes colorful text
<br />719 : [14:12] <xzhang148> fardad:how to make a meeting room just allow our team members get in?
<br />720 : �06[14:12] * goldenration testing
<br />721 : �06[14:12] * xlu44 is thinking how to tags
<br />722 : �06[14:12] * @fardad is thinking what to say next...
<br />723 : [14:12] <Xwu> test
<br />724 : �06[14:12] * OzZy_M thinks we should move on to the lecture for today
<br />725 : �06[14:12] * Vovko configuring OpenVPN, IRC is annoyng
<br />726 : [14:12] <Xwu> me is testing
<br />727 : �06[14:12] * crgosselin agrees with OzZy_M
<br />728 : [14:12] <adgezaza> Vovko: lol Vlad
<br />729 : �06[14:12] * sinker was wondering how you italicized the text
<br />730 : [14:12] <tdot> xzhang148: just /join #channelname
<br />731 : �06[14:12] * Xwu is testing
<br />732 : �06[14:12] * @fardad thinks OzZy_M thinks too much
<br />733 : �06[14:12] * _YJ_ testing
<br />734 : �06[14:12] * JQuan thinking
<br />735 : �06[14:12] * Han3 Han3 Han3
<br />736 : �06[14:13] * Ray_ lol
<br />737 : [14:13] <@fardad> ok
<br />738 : [14:13] <@fardad> ok everyone any questions?
<br />739 : [14:13] <cgm87> fardad: I have a question. Will we be getting our SVN accounts today?
<br />740 : �06[14:13] * TonyKim LOL
<br />741 : [14:13] <@fardad> tdot: CloudScorpion: did I miss anything about IRC chats?
<br />742 : [14:13] <goldenration> fardad: nope
<br />743 : [14:13] <tdot> i doubt it
<br />744 : [14:13] <danapao> when is the quiz?
<br />745 : [14:13] <xlu44> hi fardad
<br />746 : [14:13] <@fardad> cgm87: I already sent the request to ACS, I will forward it to you as soon as I get it
<br />747 : [14:14] <xlu44> i have two question
<br />748 : [14:14] <cgm87> fardad: thanks
<br />749 : [14:14] <@fardad> xlu44: hold for a second
<br />750 : [14:14] <xlu44> 1 how to tags person's name
<br />751 : [14:14] <xlu44> ok
<br />752 : [14:14] <CloudScorpion> fardad: you could mention what a kick, ban etc are
<br />753 : [14:14] <tdot> what for
<br />754 : [14:14] <tdot> alsone isnt in their sem
<br />755 : [14:15] <xzhang148> tdot: you mean I need create a new channel?
<br />756 : [14:15] <CloudScorpion> XD
<br />757 : [14:15] <@fardad> CloudScorpion: good point
<br />758 : [14:15] <OzZy_M> xzhang148: Yes
<br />759 : [14:15] <tdot> xzhang148: yes, just type /join #your_channel_name
<br />760 : [14:15] <tdot> and it will create new channel
<br />761 : [14:15] <tdot> (if its not already in use)
<br />762 : [14:15] <@fardad> ok
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<br />764 : [14:15] <@fardad> wait a minute
<br />765 : [14:15] <@fardad> everyone...
<br />766 : [14:15] <@fardad> I see that two points were missed
<br />767 : [14:15] <@fardad> first
<br />768 : [14:16] <xzhang148> tdot:ok,thx
<br />769 : [14:16] <@fardad> to create a group channel, as tdot said you just type /join #new-channel-name
<br />770 : [14:16] <@fardad> if does not exist, one (temporary one) will get created and you can invite your team to join to chat
<br />771 : �06[14:16] * OzZy_M checks to see how many people are in #new-channel-name
<br />772 : [14:17] <@fardad> BUT
<br />773 : [14:17] <@fardad> BUT
<br />774 : [14:17] <@fardad> BUT
<br />775 : [14:17] <@fardad> BUT
<br />776 : [14:17] <Ray_> one but is enough fardad
<br />777 : [14:17] <jaburton1> But what?
<br />778 : [14:17] <@fardad> it is higly recommanded not to do so unless your public channel already hass a meeting going on it
<br />779 : [14:17] <@fardad> this is agains the nature of open-ness :)
<br />780 : [14:18] <xzhang148> oh
<br />781 : [14:18] <@fardad> ok
<br />782 : �02[14:18] * xlu44 (~xlu44@CPEf81edff8430b-CM001e6b1a6d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit
<br />783 : [14:18] <@fardad> the second thing is :
<br />784 : [14:19] <@fardad> if you look at my name: it is differnt with other names
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<br />786 : [14:19] <@fardad> it either starts with an "@" or it is in different color
<br />787 : [14:19] <adgezaza> no
<br />788 : [14:20] <@fardad> that means I am an operator and I can kick poeple out
<br />789 : [14:20] <tdot> it should start with an @ in the nicklist, on channel in mIRC it doesnt append the @ by default unless its enabled
<br />790 : [14:20] <@fardad> or even ban them to ever enter a channel
<br />791 : [14:21] <@fardad> because IRC is an OPEN chat system, sometimes poeple talk a little too much or go against the policy of the community, that is when an operator can kick them out, or ban them for ever
<br />792 : [14:21] <@fardad> so
<br />793 : [14:22] <@fardad> that is it
<br />794 : [14:22] <@fardad> about IRC chats
<br />795 : [14:22] <@fardad> xlu44: you hade questions
<br />796 : [14:22] <xlu44> ty
<br />797 : [14:22] <xlu44> will you give us the svn account?
<br />798 : [14:23] <crgosselin> xlu44: he sent the request to ACS already, he'll email us when it comes
<br />799 : [14:23] <Ray_> i have question, if u dont mind, how did u became an operator of a channel?
<br />800 : [14:23] <xlu44> oh
<br />801 : [14:23] <xlu44> ty
<br />802 : [14:23] <tdot> Ray_: you create it, or youre given operator status by the creator :)
<br />803 : �06[14:23] * crgosselin thinks xlu44 sdould listen more
<br />804 : [14:23] <@fardad> well, when you /join #new-channel, then the first person getting in is the operator
<br />805 : [14:23] <Ray_> yeh i see that
<br />806 : [14:23] <@fardad> and then you can give others operator status
<br />807 : [14:24] <Ray_> nice ty
<br />808 : [14:24] <@fardad> or you go to freenode admin and register your channel and then anytime you join it, you will be an operator
<br />809 : �06[14:24] * cgm87 thinks we should move on
<br />810 : [14:24] <@fardad> tdot: thanks
<br />811 : [14:24] <Ray_> i see
<br />812 : [14:24] <@fardad> cgm87: one last thing before we move on
<br />813 : [14:25] <tdot> yeah, if you ever want to know the channel or nick commands, you can always do /nickserv help or /chanserv help
<br />814 : [14:25] <@fardad> IRC meeting are very slow, because of all typing....
<br />815 : [14:25] <sinker> fardad: is there a command/shortcut to label your chat with another user's nick?
<br />816 : [14:25] <tdot> for the curious
<br />817 : [14:25] <@fardad> and because of that you must be patient
<br />818 : [14:25] <@fardad> any questions about IRC before we start the lecture?
<br />819 : [14:25] <sinker> fardad: is there a command/shortcut to label your chat with another user's nick?
<br />820 : [14:25] <tdot> sinker: in mirc, you can type a portion of their nickname and hit Tab
<br />821 : �06[14:26] * @fardad does not understand sinker's question
<br />822 : [14:26] <tdot> youre on chatzilla so i dont know...
<br />823 : [14:26] <@fardad> ohhhhhh
<br />824 : [14:26] <@fardad> yeah , it is like that in all IRC clients
<br />825 : [14:26] <@fardad> type the first few and hit tab
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<br />827 : [14:26] <OzZy_M> Like Linux/UNIX
<br />828 : [14:27] <@fardad> or DOS :)
<br />829 : [14:27] <@fardad> he he
<br />830 : [14:27] <@fardad> ok
<br />831 : [14:27] <@fardad> any questions? final call
<br />832 : [14:27] <danapao> no
<br />833 : [14:27] <JQuan> nope
<br />834 : [14:27] <xzhang148> no
<br />835 : [14:27] <goldenration> fardad: no
<br />836 : [14:28] <CloudScorpion> ATTENTION: if you want a channel that isn't uptight and formal, join #seneca-jac444
<br />837 : [14:28] <OzZy_M> lol
<br />838 : [14:28] <OzZy_M> no questions
<br />839 : [14:28] <CloudScorpion> fardad: sorry, had to stick that out there
<br />840 : [14:28] <@fardad> ooooooooh
<br />841 : [14:28] <@fardad> yeah, the social channel for seneca students:
<br />842 : [14:28] <@fardad> #seneca-social
<br />843 : �02[14:28] * mjschranz (~chatzilla@CPE001aa091ce4c-CM00223a6aaa31.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer�)
<br />844 : [14:29] <@fardad> you can get there and enjoy CloudScorpion and tdot cursing....
<br />845 : [14:29] <OzZy_M> fardad: so what is #seneca for? school talk?
<br />846 : [14:29] <@fardad> oooooooooooh
<br />847 : [14:29] <@fardad> my bad
<br />848 : �06[14:29] * @fardad is losing his mind
<br />849 : [14:29] <@fardad> #seneca
<br />850 : [14:29] <@fardad> is the main seneca open source channel
<br />851 : [14:29] <tdot> lol, read the huge notice when you join the channel :)
<br />852 : [14:29] <@fardad> feel free to get there
<br />853 : [14:30] <@fardad> ask questions
<br />854 : [14:30] <OzZy_M> tdot: I used to use mIRC a lot previously and got mentally conditioned to ignoring those big green blocks of text
<br />855 : [14:30] <@fardad> but when in #seneca, please don't talk about how your girlfriend dumpped you...
<br />856 : [14:30] <@fardad> thats for #seneca-social
<br />857 : [14:31] <rhui4> do you have to pay for mirc
<br />858 : �06[14:31] * @fardad lets everyone know that the class continues at 14:40
<br />859 : [14:31] <cgm87> rhui4: no
<br />860 : [14:31] <xzhang148> ok
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<br />862 : [14:31] <xzhang148> pls go on
<br />863 : [14:31] <rhui4> cgm87: thanks
<br />864 : [14:31] <danapao> just continue
<br />865 : [14:31] <tdot> rhui4: it will bother you to register, but you can ignore it
<br />866 : [14:32] <rhui4> sweet
<br />867 : [14:32] <tdot> right now mine says its been unregistered for 300 and something days :D
<br />868 : [14:32] <xlu44> d
<br />869 : [14:32] <rhui4> lol
<br />870 : [14:33] <CloudScorpion> be good little open sores kiddies and get chatzilla
<br />871 : [14:33] <OzZy_M> pfft
<br />872 : [14:33] <OzZy_M> forget chatzilla
<br />873 : [14:33] <OzZy_M> IE ALL THE WAY MAN!!!
<br />874 : [14:33] <rhui4> netscape that
<br />875 : [14:34] <Ray_> i like how u troll ozzy lol
<br />876 : �03[14:34] * ling_wu is now known as lwu11
<br />877 : [14:34] <OzZy_M> meh
<br />878 : [14:34] <OzZy_M> we're on break!
<br />879 : [14:35] <tdot> lol
<br />880 : [14:35] <tdot> chatzilla blows
<br />881 : [14:35] <tdot> its a horrible unsecure client and its already been exploited
<br />882 : [14:35] <cgm87> lol
<br />883 : [14:35] <JQuan> lol
<br />884 : [14:35] <CloudScorpion> your mother has been exploited
<br />885 : [14:35] <tdot> mIRC is the only decent IRC client for windows
<br />886 : [14:35] <Trul> True
<br />887 : �06[14:36] * OzZy_M agrees
<br />888 : [14:36] <cgm87> or if your a Linux/Unix fan, irssi
<br />889 : [14:36] <adgezaza> recommended for mac users: http://colloquy.info/downloads.html
<br />890 : [14:36] <Trul> nah, BitchX is the best
<br />891 : [14:37] <OzZy_M> isn't x_CHat a good one for linux as well
<br />892 : [14:37] <tdot> iv only tried irssi but its annoying as hell
<br />893 : [14:37] <tdot> xchat is ugly as hell but most linux programs are ugly as hell
<br />894 : [14:38] <adgezaza> i irssi and thought the same
<br />895 : [14:38] <adgezaza> i used
<br />896 : �02[14:38] * Aryal (~chatzilla@CPE00222d3a5fd2-CM00222d3a5fce.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]�)
<br />897 : [14:38] <tdot> you need to memorize like 40 commands to make it do anything ;p
<br />898 : [14:38] <OzZy_M> i only used xchat once, but it didn't really feel alien. And i'm an mIRC guy at heart
<br />899 : [14:38] <cgm87> im right now using the built-in IRC client in Opera, thought I try something different
<br />900 : [14:38] <tdot> iv been using mirc for like 10 years so im a little biased
<br />901 : [14:39] <OzZy_M> same
<br />902 : [14:39] <adgezaza> colloquy is pretty much command free
<br />903 : [14:39] <adgezaza> you can do most things by clicking and right clicking...pretty ez
<br />904 : [14:39] <tdot> mircscript is one of the first programming languages i learned :D
<br />905 : [14:39] <OzZy_M> I got Turing in highschool :(
<br />906 : [14:39] <OzZy_M> sooooo boring
<br />907 : [14:39] <crgosselin> J++ in grade 10 lmao
<br />908 : [14:39] <tdot> i actually never took it
<br />909 : [14:40] <caangus> I had turing, made a side scroller for my final
<br />910 : [14:40] <Ray_> turing's an educaitonal lang
<br />911 : [14:40] <cgm87> most high schools have turing
<br />912 : [14:40] <Ray_> i studied it too in highschool
<br />913 : [14:40] <tdot> i guess iv known mircscript and php and vb6 for like 10 years
<br />914 : [14:40] <tdot> around highschool i learned java and C# and C++
<br />915 : [14:40] <OzZy_M> how long has C# been out?
<br />916 : [14:40] <crgosselin> lucky.. I didnt learn c# till I was 17, 1st semester at waterloo
<br />917 : [14:41] <tdot> C#? since about 2002 i think
<br />918 : [14:41] <cgm87> it depends, my high school did have C++ and java, but the only teacher who taugh it we didn't see eye to eye
<br />919 : �02[14:41] * Trul (~vovko@vladimir.ee) Quit
<br />920 : [14:41] <OzZy_M> My school was pretty old
<br />921 : [14:41] <OzZy_M> they god "new" P4 when I left
<br />922 : �06[14:41] * rhui4 likes air conditioning
<br />923 : [14:41] <OzZy_M> mind you it was in the middle of no where
<br />924 : [14:41] <OzZy_M> oh ya
<br />925 : [14:41] <OzZy_M> no AC in my school lol
<br />926 : [14:42] <@fardad> ok
<br />927 : [14:42] <@fardad> lets continue
<br />928 : [14:42] <JQuan> ok
<br />929 : [14:42] <_YJ_> ok
<br />930 : [14:42] <xzhang148> ok
<br />931 : �06[14:42] * goldenration it is cool at home
<br />932 : [14:42] <xlu44> ok
<br />933 : [14:42] <OzZy_M> yub yub commander
<br />934 : [14:42] <cgm87> fardad: ok
<br />935 : [14:42] <Junseok> ok
<br />936 : [14:42] <rhui4> ok
<br />937 : [14:43] <@fardad> I need to know everyone is here, if you are here say aye!
<br />938 : [14:43] <caangus> aye
<br />939 : [14:43] <acchung1> aye!
<br />940 : [14:43] <OzZy_M> aye!
<br />941 : [14:43] <JQuan> aye!
<br />942 : [14:43] <crgosselin> aye!
<br />943 : [14:43] <goldenration> aye!
<br />944 : [14:43] <_YJ_> aye!
<br />945 : [14:43] <mjschranz> aye
<br />946 : [14:43] <kumail> aye
<br />947 : [14:43] <imadorki3> aye
<br />948 : [14:43] <danapao> aye
<br />949 : [14:43] <rhui4> aye
<br />950 : [14:43] <dperit> aye
<br />951 : [14:43] <slaw12> aye
<br />952 : [14:43] <CloudScorpion> Nay
<br />953 : [14:43] <TonyKim> ok
<br />954 : [14:43] <Junseok> aye!
<br />955 : [14:43] <xlu44> aye
<br />956 : [14:43] <ysliu2> aye
<br />957 : [14:43] <Han3> aye
<br />958 : [14:43] <TonyKim> aye!
<br />959 : [14:43] <jaburton1> aye?
<br />960 : [14:43] <Vovko> Ayee!
<br />961 : [14:44] <priya_gill> aye!
<br />962 : [14:44] <adgezaza> hai
<br />963 : [14:44] <xlu44> can i copy paste in mirc?
<br />964 : [14:44] <Vovko> no
<br />965 : [14:44] <xlu44> ok
<br />966 : [14:44] <rhui4> pastebin
<br />967 : [14:44] <adgezaza> patebin
<br />968 : [14:44] <Ray_> aye
<br />969 : [14:44] <sinker> here
<br />970 : [14:44] <xlu44> i wanna copy not paste
<br />971 : [14:44] <rhui4> copybin?
<br />972 : [14:44] <Vovko> xlux44: im kidding, u can paste anything u want
<br />973 : [14:44] <OzZy_M> xlu44: just highlight the text, it auto copies
<br />974 : [14:44] <Bhavnesh> aye!!!!!!!!!!
<br />975 : �06[14:45] * @fardad is creating a project on svn for today
<br />976 : [14:45] <OzZy_M> Ihave a wiki up that shows you how to log a conversation if that is what you want
<br />977 : [14:45] <lwu11> aye
<br />978 : [14:45] <xlu44> i wanna copy from mirc channel screen
<br />979 : [14:45] <cgm87> brb
<br />980 : [14:45] <CloudScorpion> hey, who wants a completed version of Assignment 1 for this class?
<br />981 : [14:45] <xzhang148> aye
<br />982 : �02[14:45] * cgm87 (~cgervasi-@74-115-197-34.eng.wind.ca) Quit (Quit: cgm87�)
<br />983 : �06[14:45] * caangus raises hand
<br />984 : [14:45] <caangus> lol
<br />985 : [14:46] <xlu44> me
<br />986 : [14:46] <CloudScorpion> I'll pastebin it for ya, quite open sores of me if I do say so myself
<br />987 : [14:46] <JQuan> xlu44: just right click and hit copy
<br />988 : [14:46] <OzZy_M> xlu44: just use your mouse and drag across the text you want to copy, then paste it wherever you want it. mIRC auto copies when you highlight text
<br />989 : �06[14:46] * @fardad takes note
<br />990 : [14:46] <OzZy_M> isn't all that up on the repo already?
<br />991 : [14:46] <OzZy_M> besides isn't fardad changing the assignment a bit?
<br />992 : [14:46] <CloudScorpion> a bit
<br />993 : [14:46] <CloudScorpion> not much, that would require effort
<br />994 : [14:46] <CloudScorpion> and fardad is anti effort :D
<br />995 : [14:47] <goldenration> isn't programmers all anti effort?
<br />996 : [14:47] <tdot> CloudScorpion: stfu
<br />997 : [14:47] <OzZy_M> I see you said "anti effort" and not "pro efficientcy"
<br />998 : �06[14:47] * crgosselin thinks CloudScorpion is anti fardad
<br />999 : �06[14:47] * @fardad takes note
<br />1000 : [14:47] <xlu44> it's the point "mIRC auto copies" thank you
<br />1001 : �06[14:47] * CloudScorpion loves fardad
<br />1002 : �06[14:47] * @fardad takes note
<br />1003 : [14:47] <crgosselin> lol
<br />1004 : [14:47] <OzZy_M> xlu44: yw
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<br />1007 : �06[14:49] * @fardad : class is in session
<br />1008 : [14:50] <@fardad> question:
<br />1009 : [14:50] <@fardad> if int a = 1; and int b = 2;
<br />1010 : [14:50] <@fardad> and if(b<2 && (a=a+1)) printf("X\n");
<br />1011 : [14:51] <@fardad> and printf("%d\n", a);
<br />1012 : [14:51] <@fardad> what is the output of second printf?
<br />1013 : [14:51] <dperit> 1
<br />1014 : [14:51] <crgosselin> 1
<br />1015 : [14:51] <OzZy_M> 1
<br />1016 : [14:51] <goldenration> 1
<br />1017 : [14:51] <imadorki3> 1
<br />1018 : [14:51] <jaburton1> 1
<br />1019 : [14:51] <priya_gill> 1
<br />1020 : [14:51] <rhui4> 1
<br />1021 : [14:51] <danapao> 1
<br />1022 : [14:51] <@fardad> question:
<br />1023 : [14:51] <Vovko> 2?
<br />1024 : [14:51] <JQuan> 1
<br />1025 : [14:51] <_YJ_> 1
<br />1026 : [14:51] <iIra> 1
<br />1027 : [14:51] <@fardad> why 1?
<br />1028 : [14:51] <CloudScorpion> syntax error
<br />1029 : [14:51] <Bhavnesh> 1
<br />1030 : [14:51] <adgezaza> 1
<br />1031 : [14:51] <xlu44> 1
<br />1032 : [14:51] <crgosselin> because b is not less than 2
<br />1033 : [14:52] <dperit> Because evaluating the truth condition takes precedence over the brackets
<br />1034 : [14:52] <xlu44> a=a+1 always be true
<br />1035 : [14:52] <Vovko> so? a=a+1 is in a conditin of 1st if statenent
<br />1036 : [14:52] <oleg_pliats> 1
<br />1037 : [14:52] <@fardad> xlu44: but if that is the case, doesn't that make a 2?
<br />1038 : [14:52] <xlu44> no
<br />1039 : [14:52] <@fardad> xlu44: why?
<br />1040 : [14:52] <adgezaza> still b<2 is still false
<br />1041 : [14:52] <priya_gill> becaz bis not <2so it will not go to check second cond
<br />1042 : [14:52] <xlu44> because b<2 is false
<br />1043 : [14:52] <dperit> The program sees that b is not less than 2, and never even touches the second part of the statement
<br />1044 : �06[14:53] * @fardad says thanks
<br />1045 : [14:53] <tdot> because C++ uses short circuit evaluation, unlike VB :/
<br />1046 : [14:53] <@fardad> as priya_gill said, since the first condition is false
<br />1047 : [14:53] <OzZy_M> tdot: i was going to say that
<br />1048 : [14:53] <rhui4> tdot: what does that mean
<br />1049 : [14:53] <@fardad> the whole condtion's result is known
<br />1050 : [14:53] <@fardad> and because of that C does not waste time check the rest
<br />1051 : [14:53] <tdot> what fardad said
<br />1052 : [14:54] <rhui4> thanks
<br />1053 : [14:54] <@fardad> and because of that a = a+1 never happens
<br />1054 : [14:54] <@fardad> this is called lazy evaluation
<br />1055 : [14:54] <Vovko> fardad: k
<br />1056 : [14:55] <@fardad> remember the qustion I asked in class?
<br />1057 : [14:55] <xlu44> most of them
<br />1058 : [14:55] <OzZy_M> which one? :P
<br />1059 : �06[14:55] * @fardad is pastebining
<br />1060 : [14:55] <priya_gill> ya the array one for printing <3
<br />1061 : [14:56] <crgosselin> for greater than 3
<br />1062 : [14:56] <OzZy_M> OHH the McDonalds combo #2?
<br />1063 : [14:57] <@fardad> put one line in the for loop
<br />1064 : [14:57] <@fardad> yada yada yada;
<br />1065 : [14:57] <Han3> a[i]>3 && printf("%d\n", a[i]);
<br />1066 : [14:57] <@fardad> with no ?: operator
<br />1067 : [14:57] <@fardad> http://pastebin.com/Uzc1D9W8
<br />1068 : [14:57] <priya_gill> ya
<br />1069 : [14:57] <@fardad> Han3: :)
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<br />1071 : [14:58] <@fardad> didn't let me finish :)
<br />1072 : [14:58] <OzZy_M> oh ya
<br />1073 : [14:58] <xlu44> i sneaked ur last semaster answer;D
<br />1074 : [14:58] <@fardad> perfect
<br />1075 : [14:58] <crgosselin> fardad: you can use && without an if?
<br />1076 : [14:59] <@fardad> crgosselin: it goes back to what I said before
<br />1077 : [14:59] <@fardad> in C
<br />1078 : [14:59] <@fardad> operator are operators
<br />1079 : [14:59] <@fardad> if you can use + without an if
<br />1080 : [14:59] <@fardad> you can use && without an if
<br />1081 : [14:59] <crgosselin> oh ok
<br />1082 : [14:59] <@fardad> + && > / - are all the same
<br />1083 : [14:59] <crgosselin> thanks
<br />1084 : [14:59] <@fardad> they are all operaotrs working on their operands and returning a value
<br />1085 : [15:00] <adgezaza> fardad: a[i]>3 && printf("%d\n", a[i]); is the answer?
<br />1086 : [15:00] <@fardad> is everyone ok with that or Han3 ruined it for all :)
<br />1087 : [15:00] <iIra> yes
<br />1088 : [15:00] <@fardad> adgezaza, yeah
<br />1089 : [15:00] <Han3> sorry
<br />1090 : [15:00] <rhui4> ok
<br />1091 : [15:00] <xlu44> y
<br />1092 : [15:00] <adgezaza> fardad: thanks
<br />1093 : [15:00] <jaburton1> Nice to know.
<br />1094 : [15:00] <_YJ_> thanks Han
<br />1095 : [15:00] <xzhang148> ok
<br />1096 : [15:00] <Han3> YW
<br />1097 : [15:00] <OzZy_M> score one for the HOTYS
<br />1098 : [15:01] <@fardad> adgezaza: yes because C tests a[i] > 3 :)
<br />1099 : [15:01] <Han3> lol
<br />1100 : [15:01] <@fardad> if it is true then it needs to evaluate printf, and that is when it is printing
<br />1101 : [15:01] <@fardad> but when a[i] > 3 is false, then it will not evaluate printf
<br />1102 : [15:01] <@fardad> and it will not print
<br />1103 : [15:01] <crgosselin> fardad: will you get fired for doing this in the workplace?
<br />1104 : [15:02] <@fardad> so Han3 gave us the wrong answer
<br />1105 : [15:02] <xlu44> do you like we code in that way or use "if"
<br />1106 : [15:02] <@fardad> :)
<br />1107 : [15:02] <adgezaza> i like that
<br />1108 : �06[15:02] * @fardad reminds everyone about corsstalking in a lacutre
<br />1109 : [15:02] <jaburton1> So the default is if it's true it continues, else it stops.
<br />1110 : [15:02] <tdot> xlu44: you almost would always want to use an if for clarity
<br />1111 : [15:03] <OzZy_M> xlu44: you program for quality and let compiler do most optimizations
<br />1112 : [15:03] <@fardad> with && the nutral operand is true
<br />1113 : [15:03] <@fardad> which means if the first one is true the second one is tested
<br />1114 : [15:03] <@fardad> with || false is nutral
<br />1115 : [15:03] <adgezaza> fardad: is it faster for the compiler to make the condition without the if statement?
<br />1116 : [15:03] <@fardad> adgezaza: it is much much faster
<br />1117 : [15:04] <@fardad> so it depends on what you are programming
<br />1118 : [15:04] <@fardad> ad tdot said, if is usualy prefered for clarity but
<br />1119 : [15:04] <adgezaza> just use comments to clarify if its faster?
<br />1120 : [15:05] <@fardad> if you are writing a driver for a graphic card, then you need speed and then cond && action is prefered
<br />1121 : [15:05] <@fardad> well, "comments" is always recommanded and even enforced but
<br />1122 : [15:05] <@fardad> in my experience , it is not there, when you need it most
<br />1123 : [15:05] <@fardad> so
<br />1124 : [15:06] <@fardad> ok everyone is ok with lazy evaluation?
<br />1125 : [15:06] <adgezaza> fardad: understood
<br />1126 : [15:06] <jaburton1> yep
<br />1127 : [15:06] <rhui4> yes
<br />1128 : [15:06] <crgosselin> yes
<br />1129 : [15:06] <xlu44> k
<br />1130 : [15:06] <priya_gill> yes
<br />1131 : [15:06] <JQuan> yes
<br />1132 : [15:06] <Junseok> yes
<br />1133 : [15:06] <goldenration> fardad: yes
<br />1134 : [15:06] <Han3> yes
<br />1135 : [15:06] <caangus> yeah
<br />1136 : [15:06] <OzZy_M> yub yub commander
<br />1137 : [15:06] <oleg_pliats> yes
<br />1138 : [15:06] <xzhang148> ok
<br />1139 : [15:06] <cgm87> fardad: ya
<br />1140 : �06[15:06] * sinker too lazy to respond
<br />1141 : [15:06] <imadorki3> yes
<br />1142 : [15:07] <_YJ_> yes
<br />1143 : [15:07] <@fardad> OzZy_M: not to correct you but it is "Aye Aye Commander" :)
<br />1144 : [15:07] <@fardad> alright
<br />1145 : [15:07] <iIra> yes
<br />1146 : [15:07] <Bhavnesh> yes
<br />1147 : [15:07] <rhui4> aye aye commander
<br />1148 : [15:07] <OzZy_M> fardad: yub yub is the sound ewoks make :P inside star wars joke :P
<br />1149 : [15:07] <@fardad> acutally that is what I needed to cover for this week....
<br />1150 : [15:08] <Vovko> star wars?
<br />1151 : [15:08] <rhui4> star balls is a good movie
<br />1152 : [15:08] <acchung1> nice
<br />1153 : �06[15:08] * @fardad reminds again
<br />1154 : [15:08] <@fardad> this is OOP344 to comicon...
<br />1155 : [15:08] <@fardad> s/to/not
<br />1156 : [15:08] <@fardad> ok
<br />1157 : [15:09] <@fardad> are everyone ok with what we talked about?
<br />1158 : [15:09] <sinker> yes
<br />1159 : [15:09] <crgosselin> yes
<br />1160 : [15:09] <_YJ_> yes.
<br />1161 : [15:09] <rhui4> aye aye commander
<br />1162 : [15:09] <acchung1> ye
<br />1163 : [15:09] <OzZy_M> fardad: are we not to use lazy notation for anything in this class?
<br />1164 : [15:09] <xzhang148> ok
<br />1165 : [15:09] <JQuan> yes
<br />1166 : [15:09] <imadorki3> oui
<br />1167 : [15:09] <goldenration> fardad: yes
<br />1168 : [15:09] <Bhavnesh> ya
<br />1169 : [15:09] <caangus> yeah
<br />1170 : [15:09] <Han3> ok
<br />1171 : [15:09] <Junseok> ok
<br />1172 : [15:09] <cgm87> yep
<br />1173 : [15:09] <slaw12> yes
<br />1174 : �06[15:09] * @fardad makes something important clear
<br />1175 : [15:09] <@fardad> in my class use whatever you want as complicated as you want BUT
<br />1176 : [15:10] <@fardad> make sure that is not shooting yourself in the foot
<br />1177 : [15:10] <@fardad> if you do something complex and in the process do something wrong, you will still get marks deducted
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<br />1179 : [15:11] <OzZy_M> and if it is something hard and right? bonus?
<br />1180 : [15:11] <tdot> basically use what makes sense for that part of the code :)
<br />1181 : [15:11] <OzZy_M> i see
<br />1182 : [15:11] <@fardad> ok everyone,
<br />1183 : [15:11] <cgm87> yep
<br />1184 : [15:11] <@fardad> if there is not question
<br />1185 : �06[15:11] * @fardad is waiting to see if there is
<br />1186 : [15:12] <@fardad> s/not/no
<br />1187 : [15:12] <cgm87> fardad: what would something complex be?
<br />1188 : [15:12] <rhui4> what does that mean
<br />1189 : [15:12] <oleg_pliats> no
<br />1190 : [15:12] <@fardad> if there is no question, then this is it
<br />1191 : [15:12] <crgosselin> fardad: go drink some steamy hot green tea with honey and maybe you'll get your voice back
<br />1192 : [15:12] <oleg_pliats> NO!
<br />1193 : [15:12] <rhui4> ok thx
<br />1194 : [15:12] <@fardad> thanks for coming and will go through your meeting schedule to see if I can attend
<br />1195 : [15:12] <xlu44> ok
<br />1196 : [15:12] <OzZy_M> when will A1 be up?
<br />1197 : [15:12] <_YJ_> is it still June 6th ?
<br />1198 : [15:12] <rhui4> prob when we get svn
<br />1199 : �06[15:13] * cgm87 agrees
<br />1200 : [15:13] <CloudScorpion> OzZy_M: the solution can might be up before the question is up.... :D
<br />1201 : [15:13] <xzhang148> we need step by step intro for svn
<br />1202 : [15:13] <@fardad> _YJ_: is alreay up for few days
<br />1203 : [15:13] <OzZy_M> CloudScorpion: lol interesting....
<br />1204 : [15:14] <CloudScorpion> xzhang148: I wrote a tutorial for tortoiseSVN a few semesters back
<br />1205 : [15:14] <sinker> fardad: will you have time for team irc meetings tonight?
<br />1206 : �06[15:14] * rhui4 wondering if class is over
<br />1207 : [15:14] <crgosselin> rhui4: class IS over
<br />1208 : [15:14] <dperit> Has ankhSVN been suggested as an integrated client for Visual Studio?
<br />1209 : [15:14] <mjschranz> rhui4: It is, fardad is only taking questions people have.
<br />1210 : �06[15:14] * crgosselin waves goodbye
<br />1211 : [15:14] <adgezaza> kthxbye everyone
<br />1212 : �06[15:14] * rhui4 waves goodbye
<br />1213 : [15:14] <xzhang148> CloudSco:where is it?
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<br />1218 : [15:15] <cgm87> dperit: no, but i was going to metion it on my blog
<br />1219 : [15:15] <xzhang148> I mean the svn stuff
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<br />1221 : [15:15] <@fardad> [Amnoaman10]
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<br />1223 : �02[15:15] * Junseok (~jpark68@142.204.247.87) Quit
<br />1224 : [15:15] <@fardad> bye bye
<br />531 : [13:41] <@fardad> hello
<br />532 : [13:41] <JQuan> hi
<br />533 : [13:41] <cgm87> hi
<br />534 : [13:41] <Ray_> yo
<br />535 : [13:41] <TonyKim> Hello
<br />536 : [13:41] <Han3> hi
<br />537 : [13:41] <adgezaza> hai
<br />538 : [13:41] <lwang168> hi
<br />539 : [13:41] <Ray_> o hai
<br />540 : [13:41] <Bhavnesh> hey
<br />541 : [13:41] <_YJ_> hi
<br />542 : [13:41] <slaw12> hi
<br />543 : [13:41] <xzhang148> i have log all
<br />544 : [13:41] <iIra> Hi everyone
<br />545 : [13:41] <Vovko> ohai
<br />546 : [13:41] <oleg_pliats> hi everybody
<br />547 : [13:41] <ling_wu> hi
<br />548 : [13:41] <caangus> hello
<br />549 : [13:41] <Ray_> HALLO
<br />550 : [13:42] <OzZy_M> hai2Uall
<br />551 : [13:42] <crgosselin> HAI
<br />552 : [13:42] <@fardad> Ray_: one hello is good :)
<br />553 : [13:42] <sinker> hi
<br />554 : [13:42] <Ray_> okii =)
<br />555 : [13:42] <CloudScorpion> oh geez
<br />556 : [13:42] <CloudScorpion> the kids are gonna lose their minds here
<br />557 : [13:42] <crgosselin> nah we live on msn its all good
<br />558 : [13:42] <OzZy_M> speak for yourself :P
<br />559 : [13:43] <@fardad> Before we begin I want to use this opportunity to go through few point about IRC and the culture of chatting in IRC channels
<br />560 : [13:43] <@fardad> just for everyone to know, the class is now in session
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<br />562 : [13:43] <xlu44> in time
<br />563 : [13:43] <@fardad> irc chat:
<br />564 : [13:43] <xzhang148> please add the svn
<br />565 : [13:44] <CloudScorpion> fardad: perhaps you could mute everyone, then unmute them when you want questions
<br />566 : [13:44] <@fardad> CloudScorpion: mute
<br />567 : [13:44] <@fardad> irc chat rules
<br />568 : [13:44] <@fardad> 1- casual chatting on IRC:
<br />569 : [13:45] <@fardad> when you talk in an IRC channel that is not in a meeting mode, which means no active meetings is happening there
<br />570 : [13:45] <@fardad> you see lots of cross talk between poeple on different subjects
<br />571 : [13:45] <@fardad> to prevent conflict, usually users label their messages
<br />572 : [13:45] <@fardad> CloudScorpion: thanks for being here
<br />573 : [13:46] <@fardad> this means I am talking to CloudScorpion and no one else
<br />574 : [13:47] <@fardad> but when you get into a channel and you see a meeting is happening, then always label your messages and try to limit them to minimum to prevent noise
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<br />576 : [13:47] <@fardad> 2- attending a meeting on IRC:
<br />577 : [13:47] <@fardad> I - try to not do cross talking to everyone understands what is going on
<br />578 : [13:48] <@fardad> but if you have to (have a question or want to say something to someone) then label your massege;
<br />579 : [13:48] <@fardad> OzZy_M: are you ok with this?
<br />580 : [13:48] <OzZy_M> fardad: I'm assuming you do not want to use Queries
<br />581 : [13:49] <@fardad> all: that is the next point
<br />582 : [13:49] <@fardad> if you only want to send one or two messages then labeling is fine
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<br />584 : [13:49] <@fardad> but if you want to have a non-related chat (like when you talk in class when teacher is teaching :) then use /query
<br />585 : [13:50] <@fardad> as you know all commands start with a "/"
<br />586 : [13:50] <@fardad> if you want to open a private chat with someone you type "/query nickname"
<br />587 : [13:51] <sinker> fardad: how do you know when a meeting is taking place in a channel?
<br />588 : [13:51] <@fardad> sinker: good question
<br />589 : [13:51] <xzhang148> fardad:how many persons should in a private chat?
<br />590 : [13:51] <@fardad> sinker: good question
<br />591 : [13:52] <@fardad> the answer is you just know .....
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<br />593 : [13:52] <@fardad> its like when you get in a room and yousee someone is talking an everyone else is listening....
<br />594 : [13:52] <@fardad> then that is a meeting or a lecture
<br />595 : [13:53] <@fardad> xzhang148: to answer your question...
<br />596 : [13:53] <CloudScorpion> he is gonna lose control of it so quick
<br />597 : [13:53] <CloudScorpion> err
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<br />600 : [13:53] <CloudScorpion> ignore that
<br />601 : �03[13:53] * _OZ is now known as OzZy_M
<br />602 : [13:53] <@fardad> CloudScorpion: sure
<br />603 : [13:53] <@fardad> xzhang148: when a privte chat using a /query is only between two
<br />604 : [13:54] <priya_gill> hi sir when is quiz then
<br />605 : [13:54] <@fardad> priya_gill: hi and welcome, we are in a lecture now....
<br />606 : [13:54] <xzhang148> fardad:ok
<br />607 : [13:54] <adgezaza> Vovko: label command test
<br />608 : [13:55] <priya_gill> ok what r we discussing
<br />609 : [13:55] <crgosselin> priya_gill: be quiet like in class, this isn't msn
<br />610 : [13:55] <tdot> fardad id use +m until question time
<br />611 : [13:56] <@fardad> tdot: Thanks tdot, I know, but that is kind of.... dictatorship....
<br />612 : [13:56] <@fardad> I want students to be able to ask questions if they want :)
<br />613 : [13:56] <OzZy_M> and totally open source...
<br />614 : [13:56] <@fardad> ok...
<br />615 : [13:56] <crgosselin> fardad: Please continue with the lecture
<br />616 : �06[13:57] * @fardad is creating a short url
<br />617 : [13:57] <xlu44> sinker
<br />618 : [13:58] <@fardad> ok everyone, if you just joined, today logs are here:
<br />619 : [13:58] <@fardad> http://tinyurl.com/oop344may27
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<br />621 : [13:58] <@fardad> read after 13:40 LABEL
<br />622 : [13:58] <@fardad> http://tinyurl.com/oop344may27
<br />623 : [13:58] <@fardad> OK
<br />624 : [13:59] <@fardad> lets continue
<br />625 : [13:59] <@fardad> IRC meetings II:
<br />626 : [13:59] <@fardad> rule II:
<br />627 : [13:59] <@fardad> if you need to pass a url to others in a meeting, don't use a long url like:
<br />628 : [13:59] <@fardad> http://fardad.com/irclogs/Default.aspx?co=0&log=%23seneca-oop344.freenode.20100527&u1=All+Users&u2=No+One+Else&u3=No+One+Else&u4=No+One+Else
<br />629 : [14:00] <@fardad> but instead use servicesl like tinyurl.com to shorten it to something like:
<br />630 : [14:00] <@fardad> http://tinyurl.com/oop344may27
<br />631 : [14:00] <@fardad> IRC meeting rule III:
<br />632 : [14:00] <oleg_pliats> or bit.ly - it is free one
<br />633 : [14:01] <@fardad> oleg_pliats: thanks
<br />634 : [14:01] <@fardad> rule III:
<br />635 : �06[14:01] * @fardad is preparing some code
<br />636 : [14:03] <@fardad> do not copy and paste code in a chat room
<br />637 : [14:03] <@fardad> doing this is bad:
<br />638 : [14:03] <@fardad> #ifndef __FS_IOF_H__
<br />639 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define __FS_IOF_H__
<br />640 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define PLT_VCC 11
<br />641 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define PLT_BCC 22222
<br />642 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define PLT_LNX 31
<br />643 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define PLT_MAC 434
<br />644 : [14:03] <@fardad> #ifdef PLATFORM
<br />645 : [14:03] <@fardad> # undef PLATFORM
<br />646 : [14:03] <@fardad> #endif
<br />647 : [14:03] <@fardad> #define PLATFORM PLT_VCC
<br />648 : [14:03] <@fardad> void iof_init();
<br />649 : [14:03] <@fardad> void iof_end();
<br />650 : [14:03] <@fardad> void iof_flush();
<br />651 : [14:03] <@fardad> void iof_movcur(int row, int col);
<br />652 : [14:03] <@fardad> int iof_getch();
<br />653 : [14:03] <@fardad> #endif
<br />654 : [14:03] <crgosselin> fardad: god thats annoying
<br />655 : [14:03] <@fardad> instead use sevices like:
<br />656 : [14:04] <Ray_> pastebin?
<br />657 : [14:04] <@fardad> pastebin.com
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<br />659 : [14:04] <@fardad> and pass something like this: http://pastebin.com/ZpdGRWaW
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<br />662 : [14:05] <@fardad> for those who just came in:
<br />663 : [14:05] <@fardad> read http://tinyurl.com/oop344may27
<br />664 : [14:06] <@fardad> to see what we talked about in past 30 mins
<br />665 : [14:06] <@fardad> finaly
<br />666 : [14:06] <@fardad> two improtant ones....
<br />667 : [14:06] <CloudScorpion> important*
<br />668 : [14:07] <Ray_> lol
<br />669 : [14:07] <@fardad> when working on an IRC chat, specially in a opensource project where so many languages are used
<br />670 : [14:07] <@fardad> Never correct another one for spelling, grammer and stuff like that
<br />671 : [14:07] <xlu44> lol
<br />672 : [14:07] <@fardad> since english ir probably there 9th language....
<br />673 : [14:07] <OzZy_M> lol
<br />674 : [14:08] <OzZy_M> Ya i know Javascrip, C, TURING...
<br />675 : [14:08] <@fardad> and if someone try to type correct english, they have to think about spelling more than the topic they are talking about
<br />676 : [14:08] <@fardad> but obviously, if the word is toooooo wrong and you can understant it, then please ask :)
<br />677 : [14:08] <@fardad> the second thing is:
<br />678 : [14:09] <@fardad> every know and then, drop an "OK" , "got it" or something like that, so the lecturer know he is not taling to himself
<br />679 : [14:09] <@fardad> ok?
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<br />681 : [14:09] <@fardad> OK???????????
<br />682 : [14:09] <caangus> ok
<br />683 : [14:09] <Vovko> Ok
<br />684 : [14:09] <crgosselin> "OK"
<br />685 : [14:09] <adgezaza> OK
<br />686 : [14:09] <jaburton1> Okay!
<br />687 : [14:09] <Junseok> ok
<br />688 : [14:09] <Ray_> yessir
<br />689 : [14:09] <cgm87> fardad: ok
<br />690 : [14:09] <slaw12> got it!
<br />691 : [14:10] <TonyKim> ok
<br />692 : [14:10] <_YJ_> ok
<br />693 : [14:10] <acchung1> ok
<br />694 : [14:10] <goldenration> fardad: ok
<br />695 : [14:10] <Han3> Ok
<br />696 : [14:10] <OzZy_M> kk
<br />697 : [14:10] <rhui4> kk
<br />698 : [14:10] <oleg_pliats> got it
<br />699 : [14:10] <iIra> ok
<br />700 : [14:10] <sinker> ko
<br />701 : [14:10] <xzhang148> ok
<br />702 : �06[14:10] * @fardad just wanted to see how many are sleeping in class
<br />703 : [14:10] <Ray_> lol
<br />704 : �06[14:10] * crgosselin sleeps types
<br />705 : �06[14:10] * OzZy_M thinks fardad is a sneaky one
<br />706 : [14:10] <goldenration> ZZZ
<br />707 : [14:11] <@fardad> if you want to state what you are thinking use /me in third person:
<br />708 : [14:11] <xlu44> oki
<br />709 : [14:11] <cgm87> ah
<br />710 : �06[14:11] * @fardad is letting students know what is /me
<br />711 : [14:11] <xlu44> im not sleeping yet
<br />712 : �06[14:11] * adgezaza wants to test
<br />713 : [14:11] <@fardad> and /me will be replaced with your nick name
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<br />715 : �06[14:11] * rhui4 testing
<br />716 : �06[14:12] * Junseok is Junseok. (testing)
<br />717 : �06[14:12] * cgm87 thinking
<br />718 : �06[14:12] * tdot likes colorful text
<br />719 : [14:12] <xzhang148> fardad:how to make a meeting room just allow our team members get in?
<br />720 : �06[14:12] * goldenration testing
<br />721 : �06[14:12] * xlu44 is thinking how to tags
<br />722 : �06[14:12] * @fardad is thinking what to say next...
<br />723 : [14:12] <Xwu> test
<br />724 : �06[14:12] * OzZy_M thinks we should move on to the lecture for today
<br />725 : �06[14:12] * Vovko configuring OpenVPN, IRC is annoyng
<br />726 : [14:12] <Xwu> me is testing
<br />727 : �06[14:12] * crgosselin agrees with OzZy_M
<br />728 : [14:12] <adgezaza> Vovko: lol Vlad
<br />729 : �06[14:12] * sinker was wondering how you italicized the text
<br />730 : [14:12] <tdot> xzhang148: just /join #channelname
<br />731 : �06[14:12] * Xwu is testing
<br />732 : �06[14:12] * @fardad thinks OzZy_M thinks too much
<br />733 : �06[14:12] * _YJ_ testing
<br />734 : �06[14:12] * JQuan thinking
<br />735 : �06[14:12] * Han3 Han3 Han3
<br />736 : �06[14:13] * Ray_ lol
<br />737 : [14:13] <@fardad> ok
<br />738 : [14:13] <@fardad> ok everyone any questions?
<br />739 : [14:13] <cgm87> fardad: I have a question. Will we be getting our SVN accounts today?
<br />740 : �06[14:13] * TonyKim LOL
<br />741 : [14:13] <@fardad> tdot: CloudScorpion: did I miss anything about IRC chats?
<br />742 : [14:13] <goldenration> fardad: nope
<br />743 : [14:13] <tdot> i doubt it
<br />744 : [14:13] <danapao> when is the quiz?
<br />745 : [14:13] <xlu44> hi fardad
<br />746 : [14:13] <@fardad> cgm87: I already sent the request to ACS, I will forward it to you as soon as I get it
<br />747 : [14:14] <xlu44> i have two question
<br />748 : [14:14] <cgm87> fardad: thanks
<br />749 : [14:14] <@fardad> xlu44: hold for a second
<br />750 : [14:14] <xlu44> 1 how to tags person's name
<br />751 : [14:14] <xlu44> ok
<br />752 : [14:14] <CloudScorpion> fardad: you could mention what a kick, ban etc are
<br />753 : [14:14] <tdot> what for
<br />754 : [14:14] <tdot> alsone isnt in their sem
<br />755 : [14:15] <xzhang148> tdot: you mean I need create a new channel?
<br />756 : [14:15] <CloudScorpion> XD
<br />757 : [14:15] <@fardad> CloudScorpion: good point
<br />758 : [14:15] <OzZy_M> xzhang148: Yes
<br />759 : [14:15] <tdot> xzhang148: yes, just type /join #your_channel_name
<br />760 : [14:15] <tdot> and it will create new channel
<br />761 : [14:15] <tdot> (if its not already in use)
<br />762 : [14:15] <@fardad> ok
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<br />764 : [14:15] <@fardad> wait a minute
<br />765 : [14:15] <@fardad> everyone...
<br />766 : [14:15] <@fardad> I see that two points were missed
<br />767 : [14:15] <@fardad> first
<br />768 : [14:16] <xzhang148> tdot:ok,thx
<br />769 : [14:16] <@fardad> to create a group channel, as tdot said you just type /join #new-channel-name
<br />770 : [14:16] <@fardad> if does not exist, one (temporary one) will get created and you can invite your team to join to chat
<br />771 : �06[14:16] * OzZy_M checks to see how many people are in #new-channel-name
<br />772 : [14:17] <@fardad> BUT
<br />773 : [14:17] <@fardad> BUT
<br />774 : [14:17] <@fardad> BUT
<br />775 : [14:17] <@fardad> BUT
<br />776 : [14:17] <Ray_> one but is enough fardad
<br />777 : [14:17] <jaburton1> But what?
<br />778 : [14:17] <@fardad> it is higly recommanded not to do so unless your public channel already hass a meeting going on it
<br />779 : [14:17] <@fardad> this is agains the nature of open-ness :)
<br />780 : [14:18] <xzhang148> oh
<br />781 : [14:18] <@fardad> ok
<br />782 : �02[14:18] * xlu44 (~xlu44@CPEf81edff8430b-CM001e6b1a6d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit
<br />783 : [14:18] <@fardad> the second thing is :
<br />784 : [14:19] <@fardad> if you look at my name: it is differnt with other names
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<br />786 : [14:19] <@fardad> it either starts with an "@" or it is in different color
<br />787 : [14:19] <adgezaza> no
<br />788 : [14:20] <@fardad> that means I am an operator and I can kick poeple out
<br />789 : [14:20] <tdot> it should start with an @ in the nicklist, on channel in mIRC it doesnt append the @ by default unless its enabled
<br />790 : [14:20] <@fardad> or even ban them to ever enter a channel
<br />791 : [14:21] <@fardad> because IRC is an OPEN chat system, sometimes poeple talk a little too much or go against the policy of the community, that is when an operator can kick them out, or ban them for ever
<br />792 : [14:21] <@fardad> so
<br />793 : [14:22] <@fardad> that is it
<br />794 : [14:22] <@fardad> about IRC chats
<br />795 : [14:22] <@fardad> xlu44: you hade questions
<br />796 : [14:22] <xlu44> ty
<br />797 : [14:22] <xlu44> will you give us the svn account?
<br />798 : [14:23] <crgosselin> xlu44: he sent the request to ACS already, he'll email us when it comes
<br />799 : [14:23] <Ray_> i have question, if u dont mind, how did u became an operator of a channel?
<br />800 : [14:23] <xlu44> oh
<br />801 : [14:23] <xlu44> ty
<br />802 : [14:23] <tdot> Ray_: you create it, or youre given operator status by the creator :)
<br />803 : �06[14:23] * crgosselin thinks xlu44 sdould listen more
<br />804 : [14:23] <@fardad> well, when you /join #new-channel, then the first person getting in is the operator
<br />805 : [14:23] <Ray_> yeh i see that
<br />806 : [14:23] <@fardad> and then you can give others operator status
<br />807 : [14:24] <Ray_> nice ty
<br />808 : [14:24] <@fardad> or you go to freenode admin and register your channel and then anytime you join it, you will be an operator
<br />809 : �06[14:24] * cgm87 thinks we should move on
<br />810 : [14:24] <@fardad> tdot: thanks
<br />811 : [14:24] <Ray_> i see
<br />812 : [14:24] <@fardad> cgm87: one last thing before we move on
<br />813 : [14:25] <tdot> yeah, if you ever want to know the channel or nick commands, you can always do /nickserv help or /chanserv help
<br />814 : [14:25] <@fardad> IRC meeting are very slow, because of all typing....
<br />815 : [14:25] <sinker> fardad: is there a command/shortcut to label your chat with another user's nick?
<br />816 : [14:25] <tdot> for the curious
<br />817 : [14:25] <@fardad> and because of that you must be patient
<br />818 : [14:25] <@fardad> any questions about IRC before we start the lecture?
<br />819 : [14:25] <sinker> fardad: is there a command/shortcut to label your chat with another user's nick?
<br />820 : [14:25] <tdot> sinker: in mirc, you can type a portion of their nickname and hit Tab
<br />821 : �06[14:26] * @fardad does not understand sinker's question
<br />822 : [14:26] <tdot> youre on chatzilla so i dont know...
<br />823 : [14:26] <@fardad> ohhhhhh
<br />824 : [14:26] <@fardad> yeah , it is like that in all IRC clients
<br />825 : [14:26] <@fardad> type the first few and hit tab
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<br />827 : [14:26] <OzZy_M> Like Linux/UNIX
<br />828 : [14:27] <@fardad> or DOS :)
<br />829 : [14:27] <@fardad> he he
<br />830 : [14:27] <@fardad> ok
<br />831 : [14:27] <@fardad> any questions? final call
<br />832 : [14:27] <danapao> no
<br />833 : [14:27] <JQuan> nope
<br />834 : [14:27] <xzhang148> no
<br />835 : [14:27] <goldenration> fardad: no
<br />836 : [14:28] <CloudScorpion> ATTENTION: if you want a channel that isn't uptight and formal, join #seneca-jac444
<br />837 : [14:28] <OzZy_M> lol
<br />838 : [14:28] <OzZy_M> no questions
<br />839 : [14:28] <CloudScorpion> fardad: sorry, had to stick that out there
<br />840 : [14:28] <@fardad> ooooooooh
<br />841 : [14:28] <@fardad> yeah, the social channel for seneca students:
<br />842 : [14:28] <@fardad> #seneca-social
<br />843 : �02[14:28] * mjschranz (~chatzilla@CPE001aa091ce4c-CM00223a6aaa31.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer�)
<br />844 : [14:29] <@fardad> you can get there and enjoy CloudScorpion and tdot cursing....
<br />845 : [14:29] <OzZy_M> fardad: so what is #seneca for? school talk?
<br />846 : [14:29] <@fardad> oooooooooooh
<br />847 : [14:29] <@fardad> my bad
<br />848 : �06[14:29] * @fardad is losing his mind
<br />849 : [14:29] <@fardad> #seneca
<br />850 : [14:29] <@fardad> is the main seneca open source channel
<br />851 : [14:29] <tdot> lol, read the huge notice when you join the channel :)
<br />852 : [14:29] <@fardad> feel free to get there
<br />853 : [14:30] <@fardad> ask questions
<br />854 : [14:30] <OzZy_M> tdot: I used to use mIRC a lot previously and got mentally conditioned to ignoring those big green blocks of text
<br />855 : [14:30] <@fardad> but when in #seneca, please don't talk about how your girlfriend dumpped you...
<br />856 : [14:30] <@fardad> thats for #seneca-social
<br />857 : [14:31] <rhui4> do you have to pay for mirc
<br />858 : �06[14:31] * @fardad lets everyone know that the class continues at 14:40
<br />859 : [14:31] <cgm87> rhui4: no
<br />860 : [14:31] <xzhang148> ok
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<br />862 : [14:31] <xzhang148> pls go on
<br />863 : [14:31] <rhui4> cgm87: thanks
<br />864 : [14:31] <danapao> just continue
<br />865 : [14:31] <tdot> rhui4: it will bother you to register, but you can ignore it
<br />866 : [14:32] <rhui4> sweet
<br />867 : [14:32] <tdot> right now mine says its been unregistered for 300 and something days :D
<br />868 : [14:32] <xlu44> d
<br />869 : [14:32] <rhui4> lol
<br />870 : [14:33] <CloudScorpion> be good little open sores kiddies and get chatzilla
<br />871 : [14:33] <OzZy_M> pfft
<br />872 : [14:33] <OzZy_M> forget chatzilla
<br />873 : [14:33] <OzZy_M> IE ALL THE WAY MAN!!!
<br />874 : [14:33] <rhui4> netscape that
<br />875 : [14:34] <Ray_> i like how u troll ozzy lol
<br />876 : �03[14:34] * ling_wu is now known as lwu11
<br />877 : [14:34] <OzZy_M> meh
<br />878 : [14:34] <OzZy_M> we're on break!
<br />879 : [14:35] <tdot> lol
<br />880 : [14:35] <tdot> chatzilla blows
<br />881 : [14:35] <tdot> its a horrible unsecure client and its already been exploited
<br />882 : [14:35] <cgm87> lol
<br />883 : [14:35] <JQuan> lol
<br />884 : [14:35] <CloudScorpion> your mother has been exploited
<br />885 : [14:35] <tdot> mIRC is the only decent IRC client for windows
<br />886 : [14:35] <Trul> True
<br />887 : �06[14:36] * OzZy_M agrees
<br />888 : [14:36] <cgm87> or if your a Linux/Unix fan, irssi
<br />889 : [14:36] <adgezaza> recommended for mac users: http://colloquy.info/downloads.html
<br />890 : [14:36] <Trul> nah, BitchX is the best
<br />891 : [14:37] <OzZy_M> isn't x_CHat a good one for linux as well
<br />892 : [14:37] <tdot> iv only tried irssi but its annoying as hell
<br />893 : [14:37] <tdot> xchat is ugly as hell but most linux programs are ugly as hell
<br />894 : [14:38] <adgezaza> i irssi and thought the same
<br />895 : [14:38] <adgezaza> i used
<br />896 : �02[14:38] * Aryal (~chatzilla@CPE00222d3a5fd2-CM00222d3a5fce.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]�)
<br />897 : [14:38] <tdot> you need to memorize like 40 commands to make it do anything ;p
<br />898 : [14:38] <OzZy_M> i only used xchat once, but it didn't really feel alien. And i'm an mIRC guy at heart
<br />899 : [14:38] <cgm87> im right now using the built-in IRC client in Opera, thought I try something different
<br />900 : [14:38] <tdot> iv been using mirc for like 10 years so im a little biased
<br />901 : [14:39] <OzZy_M> same
<br />902 : [14:39] <adgezaza> colloquy is pretty much command free
<br />903 : [14:39] <adgezaza> you can do most things by clicking and right clicking...pretty ez
<br />904 : [14:39] <tdot> mircscript is one of the first programming languages i learned :D
<br />905 : [14:39] <OzZy_M> I got Turing in highschool :(
<br />906 : [14:39] <OzZy_M> sooooo boring
<br />907 : [14:39] <crgosselin> J++ in grade 10 lmao
<br />908 : [14:39] <tdot> i actually never took it
<br />909 : [14:40] <caangus> I had turing, made a side scroller for my final
<br />910 : [14:40] <Ray_> turing's an educaitonal lang
<br />911 : [14:40] <cgm87> most high schools have turing
<br />912 : [14:40] <Ray_> i studied it too in highschool
<br />913 : [14:40] <tdot> i guess iv known mircscript and php and vb6 for like 10 years
<br />914 : [14:40] <tdot> around highschool i learned java and C# and C++
<br />915 : [14:40] <OzZy_M> how long has C# been out?
<br />916 : [14:40] <crgosselin> lucky.. I didnt learn c# till I was 17, 1st semester at waterloo
<br />917 : [14:41] <tdot> C#? since about 2002 i think
<br />918 : [14:41] <cgm87> it depends, my high school did have C++ and java, but the only teacher who taugh it we didn't see eye to eye
<br />919 : �02[14:41] * Trul (~vovko@vladimir.ee) Quit
<br />920 : [14:41] <OzZy_M> My school was pretty old
<br />921 : [14:41] <OzZy_M> they god "new" P4 when I left
<br />922 : �06[14:41] * rhui4 likes air conditioning
<br />923 : [14:41] <OzZy_M> mind you it was in the middle of no where
<br />924 : [14:41] <OzZy_M> oh ya
<br />925 : [14:41] <OzZy_M> no AC in my school lol
<br />926 : [14:42] <@fardad> ok
<br />927 : [14:42] <@fardad> lets continue
<br />928 : [14:42] <JQuan> ok
<br />929 : [14:42] <_YJ_> ok
<br />930 : [14:42] <xzhang148> ok
<br />931 : �06[14:42] * goldenration it is cool at home
<br />932 : [14:42] <xlu44> ok
<br />933 : [14:42] <OzZy_M> yub yub commander
<br />934 : [14:42] <cgm87> fardad: ok
<br />935 : [14:42] <Junseok> ok
<br />936 : [14:42] <rhui4> ok
<br />937 : [14:43] <@fardad> I need to know everyone is here, if you are here say aye!
<br />938 : [14:43] <caangus> aye
<br />939 : [14:43] <acchung1> aye!
<br />940 : [14:43] <OzZy_M> aye!
<br />941 : [14:43] <JQuan> aye!
<br />942 : [14:43] <crgosselin> aye!
<br />943 : [14:43] <goldenration> aye!
<br />944 : [14:43] <_YJ_> aye!
<br />945 : [14:43] <mjschranz> aye
<br />946 : [14:43] <kumail> aye
<br />947 : [14:43] <imadorki3> aye
<br />948 : [14:43] <danapao> aye
<br />949 : [14:43] <rhui4> aye
<br />950 : [14:43] <dperit> aye
<br />951 : [14:43] <slaw12> aye
<br />952 : [14:43] <CloudScorpion> Nay
<br />953 : [14:43] <TonyKim> ok
<br />954 : [14:43] <Junseok> aye!
<br />955 : [14:43] <xlu44> aye
<br />956 : [14:43] <ysliu2> aye
<br />957 : [14:43] <Han3> aye
<br />958 : [14:43] <TonyKim> aye!
<br />959 : [14:43] <jaburton1> aye?
<br />960 : [14:43] <Vovko> Ayee!
<br />961 : [14:44] <priya_gill> aye!
<br />962 : [14:44] <adgezaza> hai
<br />963 : [14:44] <xlu44> can i copy paste in mirc?
<br />964 : [14:44] <Vovko> no
<br />965 : [14:44] <xlu44> ok
<br />966 : [14:44] <rhui4> pastebin
<br />967 : [14:44] <adgezaza> patebin
<br />968 : [14:44] <Ray_> aye
<br />969 : [14:44] <sinker> here
<br />970 : [14:44] <xlu44> i wanna copy not paste
<br />971 : [14:44] <rhui4> copybin?
<br />972 : [14:44] <Vovko> xlux44: im kidding, u can paste anything u want
<br />973 : [14:44] <OzZy_M> xlu44: just highlight the text, it auto copies
<br />974 : [14:44] <Bhavnesh> aye!!!!!!!!!!
<br />975 : �06[14:45] * @fardad is creating a project on svn for today
<br />976 : [14:45] <OzZy_M> Ihave a wiki up that shows you how to log a conversation if that is what you want
<br />977 : [14:45] <lwu11> aye
<br />978 : [14:45] <xlu44> i wanna copy from mirc channel screen
<br />979 : [14:45] <cgm87> brb
<br />980 : [14:45] <CloudScorpion> hey, who wants a completed version of Assignment 1 for this class?
<br />981 : [14:45] <xzhang148> aye
<br />982 : �02[14:45] * cgm87 (~cgervasi-@74-115-197-34.eng.wind.ca) Quit (Quit: cgm87�)
<br />983 : �06[14:45] * caangus raises hand
<br />984 : [14:45] <caangus> lol
<br />985 : [14:46] <xlu44> me
<br />986 : [14:46] <CloudScorpion> I'll pastebin it for ya, quite open sores of me if I do say so myself
<br />987 : [14:46] <JQuan> xlu44: just right click and hit copy
<br />988 : [14:46] <OzZy_M> xlu44: just use your mouse and drag across the text you want to copy, then paste it wherever you want it. mIRC auto copies when you highlight text
<br />989 : �06[14:46] * @fardad takes note
<br />990 : [14:46] <OzZy_M> isn't all that up on the repo already?
<br />991 : [14:46] <OzZy_M> besides isn't fardad changing the assignment a bit?
<br />992 : [14:46] <CloudScorpion> a bit
<br />993 : [14:46] <CloudScorpion> not much, that would require effort
<br />994 : [14:46] <CloudScorpion> and fardad is anti effort :D
<br />995 : [14:47] <goldenration> isn't programmers all anti effort?
<br />996 : [14:47] <tdot> CloudScorpion: stfu
<br />997 : [14:47] <OzZy_M> I see you said "anti effort" and not "pro efficientcy"
<br />998 : �06[14:47] * crgosselin thinks CloudScorpion is anti fardad
<br />999 : �06[14:47] * @fardad takes note
<br />1000 : [14:47] <xlu44> it's the point "mIRC auto copies" thank you
<br />1001 : �06[14:47] * CloudScorpion loves fardad
<br />1002 : �06[14:47] * @fardad takes note
<br />1003 : [14:47] <crgosselin> lol
<br />1004 : [14:47] <OzZy_M> xlu44: yw
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<br />1007 : �06[14:49] * @fardad : class is in session
<br />1008 : [14:50] <@fardad> question:
<br />1009 : [14:50] <@fardad> if int a = 1; and int b = 2;
<br />1010 : [14:50] <@fardad> and if(b<2 && (a=a+1)) printf("X\n");
<br />1011 : [14:51] <@fardad> and printf("%d\n", a);
<br />1012 : [14:51] <@fardad> what is the output of second printf?
<br />1013 : [14:51] <dperit> 1
<br />1014 : [14:51] <crgosselin> 1
<br />1015 : [14:51] <OzZy_M> 1
<br />1016 : [14:51] <goldenration> 1
<br />1017 : [14:51] <imadorki3> 1
<br />1018 : [14:51] <jaburton1> 1
<br />1019 : [14:51] <priya_gill> 1
<br />1020 : [14:51] <rhui4> 1
<br />1021 : [14:51] <danapao> 1
<br />1022 : [14:51] <@fardad> question:
<br />1023 : [14:51] <Vovko> 2?
<br />1024 : [14:51] <JQuan> 1
<br />1025 : [14:51] <_YJ_> 1
<br />1026 : [14:51] <iIra> 1
<br />1027 : [14:51] <@fardad> why 1?
<br />1028 : [14:51] <CloudScorpion> syntax error
<br />1029 : [14:51] <Bhavnesh> 1
<br />1030 : [14:51] <adgezaza> 1
<br />1031 : [14:51] <xlu44> 1
<br />1032 : [14:51] <crgosselin> because b is not less than 2
<br />1033 : [14:52] <dperit> Because evaluating the truth condition takes precedence over the brackets
<br />1034 : [14:52] <xlu44> a=a+1 always be true
<br />1035 : [14:52] <Vovko> so? a=a+1 is in a conditin of 1st if statenent
<br />1036 : [14:52] <oleg_pliats> 1
<br />1037 : [14:52] <@fardad> xlu44: but if that is the case, doesn't that make a 2?
<br />1038 : [14:52] <xlu44> no
<br />1039 : [14:52] <@fardad> xlu44: why?
<br />1040 : [14:52] <adgezaza> still b<2 is still false
<br />1041 : [14:52] <priya_gill> becaz bis not <2so it will not go to check second cond
<br />1042 : [14:52] <xlu44> because b<2 is false
<br />1043 : [14:52] <dperit> The program sees that b is not less than 2, and never even touches the second part of the statement
<br />1044 : �06[14:53] * @fardad says thanks
<br />1045 : [14:53] <tdot> because C++ uses short circuit evaluation, unlike VB :/
<br />1046 : [14:53] <@fardad> as priya_gill said, since the first condition is false
<br />1047 : [14:53] <OzZy_M> tdot: i was going to say that
<br />1048 : [14:53] <rhui4> tdot: what does that mean
<br />1049 : [14:53] <@fardad> the whole condtion's result is known
<br />1050 : [14:53] <@fardad> and because of that C does not waste time check the rest
<br />1051 : [14:53] <tdot> what fardad said
<br />1052 : [14:54] <rhui4> thanks
<br />1053 : [14:54] <@fardad> and because of that a = a+1 never happens
<br />1054 : [14:54] <@fardad> this is called lazy evaluation
<br />1055 : [14:54] <Vovko> fardad: k
<br />1056 : [14:55] <@fardad> remember the qustion I asked in class?
<br />1057 : [14:55] <xlu44> most of them
<br />1058 : [14:55] <OzZy_M> which one? :P
<br />1059 : �06[14:55] * @fardad is pastebining
<br />1060 : [14:55] <priya_gill> ya the array one for printing <3
<br />1061 : [14:56] <crgosselin> for greater than 3
<br />1062 : [14:56] <OzZy_M> OHH the McDonalds combo #2?
<br />1063 : [14:57] <@fardad> put one line in the for loop
<br />1064 : [14:57] <@fardad> yada yada yada;
<br />1065 : [14:57] <Han3> a[i]>3 && printf("%d\n", a[i]);
<br />1066 : [14:57] <@fardad> with no ?: operator
<br />1067 : [14:57] <@fardad> http://pastebin.com/Uzc1D9W8
<br />1068 : [14:57] <priya_gill> ya
<br />1069 : [14:57] <@fardad> Han3: :)
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<br />1071 : [14:58] <@fardad> didn't let me finish :)
<br />1072 : [14:58] <OzZy_M> oh ya
<br />1073 : [14:58] <xlu44> i sneaked ur last semaster answer;D
<br />1074 : [14:58] <@fardad> perfect
<br />1075 : [14:58] <crgosselin> fardad: you can use && without an if?
<br />1076 : [14:59] <@fardad> crgosselin: it goes back to what I said before
<br />1077 : [14:59] <@fardad> in C
<br />1078 : [14:59] <@fardad> operator are operators
<br />1079 : [14:59] <@fardad> if you can use + without an if
<br />1080 : [14:59] <@fardad> you can use && without an if
<br />1081 : [14:59] <crgosselin> oh ok
<br />1082 : [14:59] <@fardad> + && > / - are all the same
<br />1083 : [14:59] <crgosselin> thanks
<br />1084 : [14:59] <@fardad> they are all operaotrs working on their operands and returning a value
<br />1085 : [15:00] <adgezaza> fardad: a[i]>3 && printf("%d\n", a[i]); is the answer?
<br />1086 : [15:00] <@fardad> is everyone ok with that or Han3 ruined it for all :)
<br />1087 : [15:00] <iIra> yes
<br />1088 : [15:00] <@fardad> adgezaza, yeah
<br />1089 : [15:00] <Han3> sorry
<br />1090 : [15:00] <rhui4> ok
<br />1091 : [15:00] <xlu44> y
<br />1092 : [15:00] <adgezaza> fardad: thanks
<br />1093 : [15:00] <jaburton1> Nice to know.
<br />1094 : [15:00] <_YJ_> thanks Han
<br />1095 : [15:00] <xzhang148> ok
<br />1096 : [15:00] <Han3> YW
<br />1097 : [15:00] <OzZy_M> score one for the HOTYS
<br />1098 : [15:01] <@fardad> adgezaza: yes because C tests a[i] > 3 :)
<br />1099 : [15:01] <Han3> lol
<br />1100 : [15:01] <@fardad> if it is true then it needs to evaluate printf, and that is when it is printing
<br />1101 : [15:01] <@fardad> but when a[i] > 3 is false, then it will not evaluate printf
<br />1102 : [15:01] <@fardad> and it will not print
<br />1103 : [15:01] <crgosselin> fardad: will you get fired for doing this in the workplace?
<br />1104 : [15:02] <@fardad> so Han3 gave us the wrong answer
<br />1105 : [15:02] <xlu44> do you like we code in that way or use "if"
<br />1106 : [15:02] <@fardad> :)
<br />1107 : [15:02] <adgezaza> i like that
<br />1108 : �06[15:02] * @fardad reminds everyone about corsstalking in a lacutre
<br />1109 : [15:02] <jaburton1> So the default is if it's true it continues, else it stops.
<br />1110 : [15:02] <tdot> xlu44: you almost would always want to use an if for clarity
<br />1111 : [15:03] <OzZy_M> xlu44: you program for quality and let compiler do most optimizations
<br />1112 : [15:03] <@fardad> with && the nutral operand is true
<br />1113 : [15:03] <@fardad> which means if the first one is true the second one is tested
<br />1114 : [15:03] <@fardad> with || false is nutral
<br />1115 : [15:03] <adgezaza> fardad: is it faster for the compiler to make the condition without the if statement?
<br />1116 : [15:03] <@fardad> adgezaza: it is much much faster
<br />1117 : [15:04] <@fardad> so it depends on what you are programming
<br />1118 : [15:04] <@fardad> ad tdot said, if is usualy prefered for clarity but
<br />1119 : [15:04] <adgezaza> just use comments to clarify if its faster?
<br />1120 : [15:05] <@fardad> if you are writing a driver for a graphic card, then you need speed and then cond && action is prefered
<br />1121 : [15:05] <@fardad> well, "comments" is always recommanded and even enforced but
<br />1122 : [15:05] <@fardad> in my experience , it is not there, when you need it most
<br />1123 : [15:05] <@fardad> so
<br />1124 : [15:06] <@fardad> ok everyone is ok with lazy evaluation?
<br />1125 : [15:06] <adgezaza> fardad: understood
<br />1126 : [15:06] <jaburton1> yep
<br />1127 : [15:06] <rhui4> yes
<br />1128 : [15:06] <crgosselin> yes
<br />1129 : [15:06] <xlu44> k
<br />1130 : [15:06] <priya_gill> yes
<br />1131 : [15:06] <JQuan> yes
<br />1132 : [15:06] <Junseok> yes
<br />1133 : [15:06] <goldenration> fardad: yes
<br />1134 : [15:06] <Han3> yes
<br />1135 : [15:06] <caangus> yeah
<br />1136 : [15:06] <OzZy_M> yub yub commander
<br />1137 : [15:06] <oleg_pliats> yes
<br />1138 : [15:06] <xzhang148> ok
<br />1139 : [15:06] <cgm87> fardad: ya
<br />1140 : �06[15:06] * sinker too lazy to respond
<br />1141 : [15:06] <imadorki3> yes
<br />1142 : [15:07] <_YJ_> yes
<br />1143 : [15:07] <@fardad> OzZy_M: not to correct you but it is "Aye Aye Commander" :)
<br />1144 : [15:07] <@fardad> alright
<br />1145 : [15:07] <iIra> yes
<br />1146 : [15:07] <Bhavnesh> yes
<br />1147 : [15:07] <rhui4> aye aye commander
<br />1148 : [15:07] <OzZy_M> fardad: yub yub is the sound ewoks make :P inside star wars joke :P
<br />1149 : [15:07] <@fardad> acutally that is what I needed to cover for this week....
<br />1150 : [15:08] <Vovko> star wars?
<br />1151 : [15:08] <rhui4> star balls is a good movie
<br />1152 : [15:08] <acchung1> nice
<br />1153 : �06[15:08] * @fardad reminds again
<br />1154 : [15:08] <@fardad> this is OOP344 to comicon...
<br />1155 : [15:08] <@fardad> s/to/not
<br />1156 : [15:08] <@fardad> ok
<br />1157 : [15:09] <@fardad> are everyone ok with what we talked about?
<br />1158 : [15:09] <sinker> yes
<br />1159 : [15:09] <crgosselin> yes
<br />1160 : [15:09] <_YJ_> yes.
<br />1161 : [15:09] <rhui4> aye aye commander
<br />1162 : [15:09] <acchung1> ye
<br />1163 : [15:09] <OzZy_M> fardad: are we not to use lazy notation for anything in this class?
<br />1164 : [15:09] <xzhang148> ok
<br />1165 : [15:09] <JQuan> yes
<br />1166 : [15:09] <imadorki3> oui
<br />1167 : [15:09] <goldenration> fardad: yes
<br />1168 : [15:09] <Bhavnesh> ya
<br />1169 : [15:09] <caangus> yeah
<br />1170 : [15:09] <Han3> ok
<br />1171 : [15:09] <Junseok> ok
<br />1172 : [15:09] <cgm87> yep
<br />1173 : [15:09] <slaw12> yes
<br />1174 : �06[15:09] * @fardad makes something important clear
<br />1175 : [15:09] <@fardad> in my class use whatever you want as complicated as you want BUT
<br />1176 : [15:10] <@fardad> make sure that is not shooting yourself in the foot
<br />1177 : [15:10] <@fardad> if you do something complex and in the process do something wrong, you will still get marks deducted
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<br />1179 : [15:11] <OzZy_M> and if it is something hard and right? bonus?
<br />1180 : [15:11] <tdot> basically use what makes sense for that part of the code :)
<br />1181 : [15:11] <OzZy_M> i see
<br />1182 : [15:11] <@fardad> ok everyone,
<br />1183 : [15:11] <cgm87> yep
<br />1184 : [15:11] <@fardad> if there is not question
<br />1185 : �06[15:11] * @fardad is waiting to see if there is
<br />1186 : [15:12] <@fardad> s/not/no
<br />1187 : [15:12] <cgm87> fardad: what would something complex be?
<br />1188 : [15:12] <rhui4> what does that mean
<br />1189 : [15:12] <oleg_pliats> no
<br />1190 : [15:12] <@fardad> if there is no question, then this is it
<br />1191 : [15:12] <crgosselin> fardad: go drink some steamy hot green tea with honey and maybe you'll get your voice back
<br />1192 : [15:12] <oleg_pliats> NO!
<br />1193 : [15:12] <rhui4> ok thx
<br />1194 : [15:12] <@fardad> thanks for coming and will go through your meeting schedule to see if I can attend
<br />1195 : [15:12] <xlu44> ok
<br />1196 : [15:12] <OzZy_M> when will A1 be up?
<br />1197 : [15:12] <_YJ_> is it still June 6th ?
<br />1198 : [15:12] <rhui4> prob when we get svn
<br />1199 : �06[15:13] * cgm87 agrees
<br />1200 : [15:13] <CloudScorpion> OzZy_M: the solution can might be up before the question is up.... :D
<br />1201 : [15:13] <xzhang148> we need step by step intro for svn
<br />1202 : [15:13] <@fardad> _YJ_: is alreay up for few days
<br />1203 : [15:13] <OzZy_M> CloudScorpion: lol interesting....
<br />1204 : [15:14] <CloudScorpion> xzhang148: I wrote a tutorial for tortoiseSVN a few semesters back
<br />1205 : [15:14] <sinker> fardad: will you have time for team irc meetings tonight?
<br />1206 : �06[15:14] * rhui4 wondering if class is over
<br />1207 : [15:14] <crgosselin> rhui4: class IS over
<br />1208 : [15:14] <dperit> Has ankhSVN been suggested as an integrated client for Visual Studio?
<br />1209 : [15:14] <mjschranz> rhui4: It is, fardad is only taking questions people have.
<br />1210 : �06[15:14] * crgosselin waves goodbye
<br />1211 : [15:14] <adgezaza> kthxbye everyone
<br />1212 : �06[15:14] * rhui4 waves goodbye
<br />1213 : [15:14] <xzhang148> CloudSco:where is it?
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<br />1218 : [15:15] <cgm87> dperit: no, but i was going to metion it on my blog
<br />1219 : [15:15] <xzhang148> I mean the svn stuff
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<br />1224 : [15:15] <@fardad> bye bye
