'''[[OOP344 - Team Nothing - 20102 | Team Nothing]]'''
=Chat Logs=
==30-May-10 Channel: #Team-Nothing==
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Session Start: Sun May 30 19:06:27 2010
Session Ident: #team-nothing
�03[19:06] * Now talking in #team-nothing�03[19:06] * barjavel.freenode.net sets mode: +ns�01[19:07] -> *chanserv* help register�03[19:09] * sinker (~sinker@CPE002129c879f5-CM0014e826c482.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #team-nothing�03[19:09] * acchung1 sets mode: +o sinker�03[19:09] * acchung1 sets mode: +v acchung1�01[19:09] <@acchung1> i think it's better to discuss it here since fardad isn't here�01[19:10] <@acchung1> not necessary for other people to see our discussion�03[19:10] * danapao (~chatzilla@CPE001cf0f6cc86-CM0011ae9081e8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #team-nothing
[19:10] <@sinker> do you prefer underscores or capitals, ie, some_function or someFunction?
�01[19:10] <@acchung1> i prefer the 2nd
[19:11] <danapao> senond
[19:11] <danapao> then for variables ...we can do prof way saying
[19:11] <danapao> int a;
[19:11] <danapao> int b;
�01[19:11] <@acchung1> Spacing wise i don't mind... I was taught to do 3 spaces�01[19:11] <@acchung1> spacing as in indent�01[19:13] <@acchung1> who else are we missing?
[19:13] <@sinker> i prefer the second way too but fardad's function names use underscores, so do you want to use underscores for functions and the other way for variables?
�01[19:13] <@acchung1> hm�01[19:14] <@acchung1> Sure, I don't have any problem with that�01[19:14] <@acchung1> Function: This_Function�01[19:14] <@acchung1> Variable: thisVariable�01[19:14] <@acchung1> like that right?
[19:14] <@sinker> yeah but all lowercase for the functions
�01[19:15] <@acchung1> ah all lowercase�01[19:15] <@acchung1> k
[19:15] <danapao> ok
�01[19:15] <@acchung1> i have no problem with that
[19:15] <@sinker> that way we can easily identify a function vs. a variable name
[19:15] <danapao> true
[19:16] <@sinker> some_function and someVariable
�01[19:16] <@acchung1> alright
[19:18] <danapao> k
�01[19:18] <@acchung1> so all variables are the same or should we do something different with public and private variables?
[19:19] <@sinker> all the same would be simpler
�01[19:19] <@acchung1> alright
[19:19] <danapao> agree
�01[19:21] <@acchung1> alright how about indenting?�01[19:21] <@acchung1> i usually use 3 spaces
[19:22] <@sinker> i'm ok with 3
[19:22] <danapao> im ok with 3
�01[19:22] <@acchung1> alright
[19:23] <danapao> did u guys got ur accounts?
[19:23] <@sinker> no
�01[19:23] <@acchung1> nope
[19:24] <danapao> ok
�01[19:24] <@acchung1> robin is on�01[19:24] <@acchung1> how about commenting?�03[19:25] * imadorki3 (~androirc@24.114.232.38) has joined #team-nothing�01[19:25] <@acchung1> hi
[19:25] <imadorki3> hii
[19:26] <imadorki3> is he going to be on?
�01[19:26] <@acchung1> so basically since fardad isn't here, we are discussing about the rules and conventions we will be using when we are coding�01[19:26] <@acchung1> doubt it�01[19:26] <@acchung1> but we are using this time to do the rules and conventions
[19:26] <imadorki3> this is lame! blahh..
�01[19:26] <@acchung1> lol�01[19:27] <@acchung1> well we need to do this before we start working on the project, the sooner we have it done the better
[19:27] <imadorki3> ohhkay sounds good
�01[19:27] <@acchung1> so basically�01[19:27] <@acchung1> we did some stuff
[19:27] <@sinker> imadorki3: do you want to discuss how to bake a cake? :)
�01[19:27] <@acchung1> lol
[19:28] <imadorki3> I think ill pass with the cake baking lol
�01[19:28] <@acchung1> Function Naming Convention: int function_name()�01[19:28] <@acchung1> imadorki3: any problems with that?
[19:29] <imadorki3> nopee
�01[19:29] <@acchung1> ok�01[19:29] <@acchung1> for variable we did�01[19:29] <@acchung1> variableName�01[19:29] <@acchung1> and each variable will be on it's own line�01[19:29] <@acchung1> int a;�01[19:29] <@acchung1> int b;�01[19:29] <@acchung1> indentation wise, we said we are going to use 3 spaces�01[19:30] <@acchung1> any objections?
[19:30] <imadorki3> sounds good so far: )
�01[19:30] <@acchung1> okay
[19:30] <@sinker> or just var if it's a simple variable name like cat or dog
�01[19:30] <@acchung1> yep
[19:31] <@sinker> varName for compound variable names
[19:31] <imadorki3> yessirs!
�01[19:31] <@acchung1> k�01[19:31] <@acchung1> so on to commenting�01[19:32] <@acchung1> the file heading
[19:33] <imadorki3> what format do you guys want to use?
�01[19:33] <@acchung1> I usually do this�01[19:33] <@acchung1> * File Name: example.cpp�01[19:33] <@acchung1> * Author: Name (senecaid)�01[19:33] <@acchung1> * Create Date: 23-May-10�01[19:33] <@acchung1> * Last Modified Date: 11-Nov-10�01[19:33] <@acchung1> * Description: blah blah blah�01[19:33] <@acchung1> */�03[19:33] * danapao_ (~chatzilla@CPE001cf0f6cc86-CM0011ae9081e8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #team-nothing�01[19:33] <@acchung1> lol
[19:33] <danapao_> i got kick out
�01[19:33] <@acchung1> nice�01[19:33] <@acchung1> you're still here for me�03[19:34] * Retrieving #team-nothing modes...�03[19:34] * acchung1 sets mode: +t-n�01[19:34] <@acchung1> What was that site that fardad used for copy and paste?
[19:35] <@sinker> pastebin.com
[19:35] <imadorki3> what about individual comments per function?
�01[19:35] <@acchung1> thanks
[19:35] <imadorki3> that's a good idea, I'm not takibg note of this: )
�01[19:35] <@acchung1> http://pastebin.com/Ns3REB7p�01[19:36] <@acchung1> don't worry i am�01[19:36] <@acchung1> i got the chat log and i'm doing the wiki as we are agreeing on things�02[19:36] * danapao (~chatzilla@CPE001cf0f6cc86-CM0011ae9081e8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds�)�03[19:36] * danapao_ is now known as danapao
[19:36] <@sinker> that looks ok for file headers
[19:37] <imadorki3> kayyy cause I'm on irc on my phone :S
[19:37] <imadorki3> agreed
�01[19:37] <@acchung1> http://pastebin.com/NTSfJTgx for each function
[19:37] <danapao> my irc server is acting weird
�01[19:37] <@acchung1> i don't think we should comment each line, instead we should just comment the function
[19:38] <imadorki3> yeahh agreed
�01[19:38] <@acchung1> because i think we should more or less understand the lines if we know what the function does
[19:38] <imadorki3> that's what I did
[19:38] <danapao> k agree
�01[19:38] <@acchung1> k�01[19:38] <@acchung1> kerry?�01[19:38] <@acchung1> er�01[19:38] <@acchung1> sinker?�01[19:38] <@acchung1> sinker: any problems?
[19:38] <@sinker> agree
�01[19:39] <@acchung1> k
[19:39] <danapao> so thats it?
�01[19:39] <@acchung1> one more that i can think of
[19:39] <@sinker> I suggest comments to describe functions and purpose of variable
�01[19:40] <@acchung1> purpose of variable?�01[19:40] <@acchung1> ex?
[19:41] <@sinker> what the variable will be used for or what it will contain
[19:41] <@sinker> i don't mean the type
[19:42] <imadorki3> I think that having the purpose of each function is good enough, as well, following the purpose of te fuction rhere should be a list of variables used within that function
[19:42] <@sinker> in the comments?
�01[19:42] <@acchung1> sinker: I get what you mean... but do we put the meaning of the variable comment beside the variables or in the commenting block of each function?
[19:42] <imadorki3> eg. function name
[19:43] <imadorki3> purpose
�01[19:43] <@acchung1> so in the purpose
[19:43] <imadorki3> variables in function
�01[19:43] <@acchung1> AH
[19:43] <imadorki3> purpose
[19:43] <imadorki3> yeah
[19:43] <imadorki3> function comment block
�01[19:43] <@acchung1> ok�01[19:44] <@acchung1> http://pastebin.com/L2vvT8Bm
[19:44] <@sinker> ok we can state the purpose of the variable as we name them in the function comments
�01[19:44] <@acchung1> something like that?�01[19:44] <@acchung1> http://pastebin.com/vFGUw0PH
[19:44] <@sinker> yeah, ok
�01[19:44] <@acchung1> ?
[19:45] <danapao> yep
[19:45] <imadorki3> sorry guys I'm typing on my phone and ny thumbsare starting to hurt
[19:46] <imadorki3> I can't see the link
[19:46] <imadorki3> or rather I can't click on the links
�01[19:46] <@acchung1> lol
[19:46] <@sinker> imadorki3: lol
�01[19:46] <@acchung1> Look on the wiki�01[19:46] <@acchung1> i'll save it now
[19:46] <imadorki3> I canttttt
[19:47] <imadorki3> I'm on my phone I can't go on lol
�01[19:47] <@acchung1> lol
[19:47] <@sinker> imadorki3: look later :)
�01[19:47] <@acchung1> well check later�01[19:47] <@acchung1> yep
[19:47] <imadorki3> okayyy sounds good
�01[19:47] <@acchung1> Sinker: I actually prefer something different
[19:47] <imadorki3> what else is there...hmm
�01[19:48] <@acchung1> http://pastebin.com/qQYFa8cA�01[19:48] <@acchung1> i prefer that�01[19:48] <@acchung1> so it is easier to see when it opens and closes�01[19:48] <@acchung1> also so that we won't "miss" a brace
[19:48] <danapao> good idea
[19:49] <@sinker> acchung1: ok, that's true about keeping track of open and close
[19:49] <danapao> is there anything else because i g2g in a few mins?
�01[19:50] <@acchung1> hm�01[19:50] <@acchung1> if it is 1 line should we use the {}?�01[19:50] <@acchung1> always use it is my answer but i want to see what you guys think
[19:51] <@sinker> i'm having second thoughts about the var naming. should we keep it similar to the function naming?
[19:52] <imadorki3> I like to use the braces regardless, its just easier to read I think..
�01[19:52] <@acchung1> ookay
[19:52] <@sinker> acchung1: for one line you don't really need it but we can use them just in case more code gets added later...
�01[19:52] <@acchung1> so always use it
[19:53] <@sinker> that way they don't get forgotten
�01[19:53] <@acchung1> okay�01[19:53] <@acchung1> and i don't mind for the variables�01[19:53] <@acchung1> either way is fine
[19:54] <@sinker> ok let's do it similar to the functions so our code looks cleaner and more consistent
�01[19:54] <@acchung1> alright�01[19:54] <@acchung1> any objections?
[19:54] <danapao> nope
[19:55] <imadorki3> yes
[19:55] <@sinker> naming for conditional comolation
[19:55] <@sinker> compilation
�01[19:56] <@acchung1> ?
[19:56] <imadorki3> I'm just as confused lol.
[19:56] <@sinker> in the course notes they give an example: #define _abc_h_
[19:57] <danapao> whats that?
�01[19:57] <@acchung1> the thing fardad did?�01[19:57] <@acchung1> i think i'm getting sick lol
[19:57] <@sinker> yeah
�01[19:57] <@acchung1> freezing, brb
[19:57] <@sinker> we can talk about that one later
[19:57] <danapao> o that #ifndef _HEADER_H
[19:58] <danapao> i google it to find out what u mean
[19:58] <@sinker> yeah, to make it something unique
�01[19:58] <@acchung1> lol
[19:58] <imadorki3> how did you want to name it?
[19:58] <@sinker> see page 11 in the notes if you have them
�01[19:58] <@acchung1> i like the _header_h
[19:59] <imadorki3> ill check it out later I guess
[19:59] <danapao> lol
[19:59] <imadorki3> :)
�01[19:59] <@acchung1> lol�01[19:59] <@acchung1> should i register this channel?
[19:59] <@sinker> i was thinking of using our team initials in it somehow to make it unique
�01[19:59] <@acchung1> _tn_header_h�01[19:59] <@acchung1> ?
[19:59] <danapao> yeah
[20:00] <danapao> thats a good idea
�01[20:00] <@acchung1> or _TN_header_h�01[20:00] <@acchung1> or all caps
[20:00] <@sinker> yeah but with an underscore at the end too
[20:00] <@sinker> i think lowercase
[20:01] <danapao> ok kids ( even tough i might be the youngest) i g2g
[20:01] <@sinker> _tn_headerabc_h_
�01[20:01] <@acchung1> alright�01[20:01] <@acchung1> danapao: later
[20:01] <@sinker> danapao: bye
�02[20:02] * danapao (~chatzilla@CPE001cf0f6cc86-CM0011ae9081e8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]�)�01[20:02] <@acchung1> so anything else?
[20:02] <@sinker> i that's good for now
�01[20:03] <@acchung1> alright
[20:03] <imadorki3> I thi k I need to go now too, time to go home: ) ill check this convo out later once I get home, so I have a better idea of what you guys are talking about!
�01[20:03] <@acchung1> bye
[20:03] <@sinker> acchung1: can you add your suggestions for coding style to the team wiki?
[20:03] <imadorki3> byeeee!
�01[20:03] <@acchung1> doign it right now�01[20:04] <@acchung1> imadorki3: bye
[20:04] <@sinker> imadorki3: bye
�02[20:04] * imadorki3 (~androirc@24.114.232.38) Quit (Quit: Bye�)�01[20:04] <@acchung1> it should be up in a few once i do the conditional thing
[20:04] <@sinker> acchung1: are you adding everything we talked about?
�01[20:05] <@acchung1> yep�01[20:05] <@acchung1> this will go intot he irc chat log
[20:05] <@sinker> acchung1: ok, thanks..did you create a log file?
�01[20:05] <@acchung1> yep
[20:06] <@sinker> acchung1: i'm going to get going
�01[20:06] <@acchung1> alright�01[20:06] <@acchung1> see you later�01[20:07] -> *chanserv* register help
[20:07] <@sinker> i'll see you wed in class
�01[20:07] <@acchung1> see you wed in class�03[20:07] * @sinker (~sinker@CPE002129c879f5-CM0014e826c482.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has left #team-nothing
Session Close: Sun May 30 20:08:16 2010
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