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− | Date: Wednesday November 13, 2013 (1:30 - 3:15 pm) | + | :Date: Wednesday November 13, 2013 (1:30 - 3:15 pm) |
− | Present: | + | ===Present:=== |
− | Peter Callaghan | + | Peter Callaghan, |
− | John Selmys | + | John Selmys, |
− | Kent Poots | + | Kent Poots, |
− | Chris Tyler | + | Chris Tyler, |
− | Andrew Smith | + | Andrew Smith, |
− | MaryLynn Manton | + | MaryLynn Manton, |
Murray Saul | Murray Saul | ||
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Regrets: | Regrets: | ||
− | Scott Apted | + | Scott Apted, |
Raymond Chan | Raymond Chan | ||
− | SHORT-TERM GOALS: | + | ===SHORT-TERM GOALS:=== |
− | Switch to CENTOS for OPS235 and OPS335 starting for the Winter 2014 semester. Reasons for this is that seems to be many "Leading Edge" features in Fedora that lead to student frustration, and a number of instructors had problems with stable release of Fedora 19. Suggestion was made to try to update distribution every 2 years, with sufficient "lead-time" to test-out and update labs at least one semester prior to newer distribution roll-out. Experience indicates frustration when trying to work with most recent stable release (eg. Fedora 19, but true with most rollouts of Operating Systems). | + | :Switch to CENTOS for OPS235 and OPS335 starting for the Winter 2014 semester. Reasons for this is that seems to be many "Leading Edge" features in Fedora that lead to student frustration, and a number of instructors had problems with stable release of Fedora 19. Suggestion was made to try to update distribution every 2 years, with sufficient "lead-time" to test-out and update labs at least one semester prior to newer distribution roll-out. Experience indicates frustration when trying to work with most recent stable release (eg. Fedora 19, but true with most rollouts of Operating Systems). |
− | Although decision made to switch to CENTOS 6.4 for Winter semester, important to note there are always changes in newer distributions (including CENTOS)... | + | :Although decision made to switch to CENTOS 6.4 for Winter semester, important to note there are always changes in newer distributions (including CENTOS)... |
+ | ===LONGER-TERM GOALS:=== | ||
+ | :CNS/CTY is proceeding with the review process. Report sent for approval - pending acceptance or feedback. No "official" changes in terms of long-term curriculum should be implemented until this review process "plays out". On the other hand, good to be aware of concerns (window of opportunity) to discuss to be prepared when longer-term changes (improvements) are required. | ||
− | + | ===Concerns / Opportunities:=== | |
− | CNS/CTY | + | :#Chris mentioned from his perspective many of the CNS/CTY graduates in CDOT that move into industry notice "delta" between course concepts and "real world" practice of Linux admin in terms of Enterprise computing (clusters as opposed to single machines). |
+ | :#More emphasis should be placed on administering / setting up in the cloud (paradigm shift) . This concern was also mentioned and addressed in the CNS/CTY PAC committee meeting held in the previous week. | ||
+ | :#Suggestion to move from "KVM" to" Open-Stac"k for OPS235 / OPS355 (perhaps other courses/) for VM management, with "rdo" scripts to help simplify complex configuration involving "OPEN STACK". Also mention of importance of network reliability when using VM manager such as Open Stack. | ||
+ | :#Apparently discussion regarding roll-out / design of Matrix2. Apparently Chris Tyler and John Selmys (or was that Andrew? I forget...) to attend this informaiton session and report back to OPS Stream meeting. Importance of Faculty to be aware how computing in the cloud would impact labs, and be prepared to incorporate in order to effectively instruct and better prepare students for industry. | ||
+ | :#Importance to design courses using a taxonomy (i.e. a ladder or "steps") whereby complexity builds so students develop and understand how to administer or perform an operation, but are then required to apply skills (especially "think" / self actualization to better cement concepts or purpose of labs). Perhaps over time (due to other instructors not involved with planning of course) made improvements that may have made students "perform steps" (path clearing) as opposed to being challenged with a purpose in mind. | ||
+ | :#Discussion of the importance of collaboration. For example, more instructors are starting to use the WIKI, but should there be "best-practices" for WIKI use? Also, mention of need possiblly for instructors to use technology to help all keep "in sync" in a way to keep consistent, but also prevent impeding on instructor's flexibility or freedom of delivery... | ||
+ | :#Murray indicated it would be a good idea to create a "Mind-Map" of longer term goals for OPS stream. This map can be modified and tweaked to see all concepts, modules to help in curriculum design when the time comes... | ||
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Latest revision as of 21:49, 15 January 2015
Contents
Highlights of OPS Stream Meeting:
- Date: Wednesday November 13, 2013 (1:30 - 3:15 pm)
Present:
Peter Callaghan, John Selmys, Kent Poots, Chris Tyler, Andrew Smith, MaryLynn Manton, Murray Saul
Regrets:
Scott Apted, Raymond Chan
SHORT-TERM GOALS:
- Switch to CENTOS for OPS235 and OPS335 starting for the Winter 2014 semester. Reasons for this is that seems to be many "Leading Edge" features in Fedora that lead to student frustration, and a number of instructors had problems with stable release of Fedora 19. Suggestion was made to try to update distribution every 2 years, with sufficient "lead-time" to test-out and update labs at least one semester prior to newer distribution roll-out. Experience indicates frustration when trying to work with most recent stable release (eg. Fedora 19, but true with most rollouts of Operating Systems).
- Although decision made to switch to CENTOS 6.4 for Winter semester, important to note there are always changes in newer distributions (including CENTOS)...
LONGER-TERM GOALS:
- CNS/CTY is proceeding with the review process. Report sent for approval - pending acceptance or feedback. No "official" changes in terms of long-term curriculum should be implemented until this review process "plays out". On the other hand, good to be aware of concerns (window of opportunity) to discuss to be prepared when longer-term changes (improvements) are required.
Concerns / Opportunities:
- Chris mentioned from his perspective many of the CNS/CTY graduates in CDOT that move into industry notice "delta" between course concepts and "real world" practice of Linux admin in terms of Enterprise computing (clusters as opposed to single machines).
- More emphasis should be placed on administering / setting up in the cloud (paradigm shift) . This concern was also mentioned and addressed in the CNS/CTY PAC committee meeting held in the previous week.
- Suggestion to move from "KVM" to" Open-Stac"k for OPS235 / OPS355 (perhaps other courses/) for VM management, with "rdo" scripts to help simplify complex configuration involving "OPEN STACK". Also mention of importance of network reliability when using VM manager such as Open Stack.
- Apparently discussion regarding roll-out / design of Matrix2. Apparently Chris Tyler and John Selmys (or was that Andrew? I forget...) to attend this informaiton session and report back to OPS Stream meeting. Importance of Faculty to be aware how computing in the cloud would impact labs, and be prepared to incorporate in order to effectively instruct and better prepare students for industry.
- Importance to design courses using a taxonomy (i.e. a ladder or "steps") whereby complexity builds so students develop and understand how to administer or perform an operation, but are then required to apply skills (especially "think" / self actualization to better cement concepts or purpose of labs). Perhaps over time (due to other instructors not involved with planning of course) made improvements that may have made students "perform steps" (path clearing) as opposed to being challenged with a purpose in mind.
- Discussion of the importance of collaboration. For example, more instructors are starting to use the WIKI, but should there be "best-practices" for WIKI use? Also, mention of need possiblly for instructors to use technology to help all keep "in sync" in a way to keep consistent, but also prevent impeding on instructor's flexibility or freedom of delivery...
- Murray indicated it would be a good idea to create a "Mind-Map" of longer term goals for OPS stream. This map can be modified and tweaked to see all concepts, modules to help in curriculum design when the time comes...
At the end of the meeting, there was a consensus that meeting was productive. There was also an agreement that this group should meet in January 2014 for followup and further discussion.