John Samuel's additional comments

After some reflection and review of the other comments, I thought of other things to add to the recommendations, or at least to pass on to Evan. If int322 is going to continue the work on html5 the int222/322 (and probably 422) courses will have to be changed in sequence, with int222 changing a semester or two before int322 does. If we are going to continue html5 into 322 then we are changing the paradigm the current 222/322 courses are based on - client-side only in one course and server-side only in the other. This change appears to be a reasonable idea, based on the exponential adoption rate of html5 and the need for it due to all the different devices out there, I'm just saying that it could be a mess if the transition isn't coordinated and planned carefully, because students are all over the place in which courses they take when. Due to the above, maybe we should have a professional option course in html5, for those students who have already taken 222 and 322, or will have done so before the changes are implemented. Because of the way that students don't all follow in step (coop, work, etc.) there will still be some students around for awhile that don't have any html5 and they'll be at a disadvantage if they don't get a chance to pick it up. This would give cdot more students sooner who are capable of working on their projects, which is what started this whole thing. After further thought I think that int322 should definitely teach php, rather than python. The paradigm that php teaches (take the markup language and insert programming language statements) is more common than the cgi model of perl and python (output html from within the perl or python code), and also php is by far the most widely used open source web programming language these days. While the suggestion to use python instead (or as well) was made so that students would learn some of a scripting language that could be used for non-web programming (especially in the open source courses and projects), I think that this is best served by an option course in scripting, which has been suggested already. John