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| | {{GAM666/DPS901 Index | 20103}} | | {{GAM666/DPS901 Index | 20103}} |
| | = Mutalisk = | | = Mutalisk = |
| | + | == Project Marking Percentage == |
| | + | <big> |
| | + | Group work: 60% (25 <= xx <= 50) |
| | + | Individual work: 40% + (50 <= xx <= 75) |
| | + | ------------------------- |
| | + | Total 100% |
| | + | </big> |
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| | == Repository Path == | | == Repository Path == |
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| | == Trunk Status == | | == Trunk Status == |
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| − | committed by fardad | + | committed by Hasan |
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| | + | == Messages == |
| | + | === UPDATE: Nov. 5, Importing meshes from a file now ready === |
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| | + | Mesh importing has now been implemented through the CreateMesh() method. To use it, '''#include "iMesh.h"''' and call '''CreateMesh("filename.obj", Colour somecolour);''' |
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| | + | '''CreateMesh:''' This function creates and returns the address of a new iObject object (in reality a Mesh object, descending from Object). The model file is expected to reside in resources/models (resources resides in the same directory as 15-Controller). Like other objects, set the Colour to whatever you want to multiply the model's texture by that colour. |
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| − | = Team Memebers = | + | --Hasan |
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| | + | = Team Members = |
| | {| border="1" cellpadding="5" | | {| border="1" cellpadding="5" |
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| | | Hughes || Joseph || jphughes || - || CloudScorpion || - | | | Hughes || Joseph || jphughes || - || CloudScorpion || - |
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| − | | Tessema ||Iyosias||istessema || - || iyosias|| -
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| | | Alexander || Ryan || rjalexander || - || tdot || - | | | Alexander || Ryan || rjalexander || - || tdot || - |
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| | | Kamal-Al-Deen || Hasan || hkamal-al-deen || [http://orbitalstation.wordpress.com The Orbital Station] || northWind || 416NUMNUMNUM909NUMNUMNUM7925 | | | Kamal-Al-Deen || Hasan || hkamal-al-deen || [http://orbitalstation.wordpress.com The Orbital Station] || northWind || 416NUMNUMNUM909NUMNUMNUM7925 |
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| − | | Gorscak || Ljubomir || gljubomir || [http://ljubomirgorscak.blogspot.com Ljubomir's Blog] || ljubo || (647) 328-4807 | + | | Gorscak || Ljubomir || gljubomir || [http://ljubomirgorscak.blogspot.com Ljubomir's Blog] || ljubo || 647dash328dash4807 |
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| − | [mailto:jphughes@learn.senecac.on.ca,istessema@learn.senecac.on.ca,gljubomir@learn.senecac.on.ca,rjalexander@learn.senecac.on.ca,hkamal-al-deen@learn.senecac.on.ca?subject=dps901-gam666 Email All] | + | [mailto:jphughes@learn.senecac.on.ca,gljubomir@learn.senecac.on.ca,rjalexander@learn.senecac.on.ca,hkamal-al-deen@learn.senecac.on.ca?subject=dps901-gam666 Email All] |
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| | = Proposal = | | = Proposal = |
| | ==Introduction== | | ==Introduction== |
| − | In response to the proposal assignment you announced in our class, this memo outlines our plans to create a 3D game for GAM666. | + | In response to the proposal assignment in-class, this memo outlines our plans to create a 3D game for GAM666. |
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| | ==Proposed Plan== | | ==Proposed Plan== |
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| | *Once we have achieved the first milestone, there will be plenty of oportunity for each team member to make further contributions and increase the complexity of the game. | | *Once we have achieved the first milestone, there will be plenty of oportunity for each team member to make further contributions and increase the complexity of the game. |
| | *Having an idea which is initially simplistic and builds in complexity will allow our team to ensure a polished look and playability. | | *Having an idea which is initially simplistic and builds in complexity will allow our team to ensure a polished look and playability. |
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| | + | ==Goals== |
| | + | {| border="1" cellpadding="5" |
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| | + | ! Goal !! Team Member !! Status |
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| | + | | Mirror Surfaces || - || UNASSIGNED |
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| | + | | Physics || - || UNASSIGNED |
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| | + | | Friction || - || UNASSIGNED |
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| | + | | Particle Systems || - || UNASSIGNED |
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| | + | | Weather || - || UNASSIGNED |
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| | + | | OBJ Model Importer || - || UNASSIGNED |
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| | + | | Map Format || - || UNASSIGNED |
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| | + | | Shaders || - || UNASSIGNED |
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| | ==Preview Images== | | ==Preview Images== |
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| | =Team Schedule= | | =Team Schedule= |
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| − | ==Meetings==
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| − | ===Wed, Sept 29 @ 9:00pm===
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| − | IRC Meeting<br />
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| − | In Freenode, /join #seneca-students
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| − | <br />
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| − | *IRC Log
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| − | <pre>
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| − | <northWind> we need to work out a proposal
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| − | <tdot> i liked the idea ljubo told me yesterday
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| − | <northWind> essentially a 250 word informal desc. of game idea + bunch of pics
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| − | <tdot> lol
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| − | <tdot> how do we get pics of a non-existant game
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| − | <northWind> i got the pics handled
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| − | <northWind> like, story board
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| − | <tdot> lol
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| − | <tdot> do we even know what we are doing in gam666
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| − | <northWind> well
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| − | <northWind> the last idea we all seemed to agree on was like a rolling ball
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| − | puzzle game
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| − | <tdot> yes
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| − | <tdot> that sounds good
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| − | <ljubo> I like that idea a lot
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| − | <ljubo> I was thinking
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| − | <ljubo> maybe as an alternative to having the board tilt
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| − | <northWind> ok?
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| − | <northWind> we like alternatives lol
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| − | <ljubo> perhaps having a ball that can be moved and turned with the keys
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| − | <ljubo> like a person
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| − | <northWind> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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| − | <tdot> yes northWind likes alternative loving
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| − | <ljubo> or a 'remote control ball'
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| − | <ljubo> and
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| − | <northWind> thats cool
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| − | <tdot> well we can probably do both
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| − | <ljubo> kinda 'third person' view
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| − | <tdot> the input is going to be the least of our problems
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| − | <northWind> yeah
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| − | <northWind> ok
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| − | <ljubo> so you don't see the whole maze
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| − | <CloudScorpion> just throwing this out there, does this proposal have to our
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| − | plans for the framework changes y/n?
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| − | <tdot> yes
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| − | <northWind> so maybe you can apply force on the board and you can tilt the
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| − | board?
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| − | <tdot> thats ljubo's idea i liked
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| − | <tdot> if its kinda like 3rd person following the ball
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| − | <CloudScorpion> have to have*
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| − | <tdot> so you can get lost in the maze
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| − | <ljubo> yeah
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| − | <northWind> ok so you want a maze that you can get lost in
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| − | <ljubo> you can get lost
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| − | <ljubo> but
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| − | <ljubo> we put objects around
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| − | <ljubo> so you learn your way
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| − | <ljubo> like
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| − | <ljubo> "I've been down there before and it was a dead end"
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| − | <ljubo> "I recognize that object - I'll try going right this time instead
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| − | of left"
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| − | <northWind> hmmm i may not like the idea of more than very few objects
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| − | <northWind> and thats just because we don't have time to make models
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| − | <tdot> lol no
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| − | <tdot> northWind
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| − | <tdot> there are many free models online
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| − | <tdot> as long as we don't animate them
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| − | <tdot> its pretty fucking simple to do
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| − | <ljubo> I'm thinking simple things
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| − | <ljubo> pictures on the wall
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| − | <ljubo> a lamp
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| − | <northWind> hmmm interesting
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| − | <ljubo> chandelier
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| − | <northWind> in this case, the idea of the game would be to navigate the map
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| − | <tdot> maybe also include elements for the other type
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| − | <tdot> like traps you can fall into
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| − | <ljubo> it would be like you are walking through a maze/labrinth
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| − | <northWind> in the original idea w/ a tilting board, the idea is to avoid
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| − | obstacles and to avoid falling off board or falling into holes
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| − | <northWind> yeah
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| − | <northWind> so
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| − | <tdot> could combine both
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| − | <northWind> which type of gameplay do we like better
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| − | <northWind> ok, then lets think about camera
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| − | <tdot> i think following the ball 3rd person sounds cool
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| − | <northWind> hmmm but our ball is not a very interesting model
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| − | <northWind> what if its a bit distant?
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| − | <tdot> northWind: couldn't we make it really interesting?
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| − | <tdot> lol
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| − | <northWind> lol
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| − | <northWind> suppose we can
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| − | <tdot> make it a high poly count ball and make it reflective
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| − | <northWind> how about this
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| − | <northWind> how much screen space will ball occupy
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| − | <tdot> if we are going to add some pixel shader support it shouldn't be
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| − | too hard to make the ball reflective
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| − | <northWind> well
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| − | <northWind> we can pretty it up
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| − | <northWind> but how much screen space does ball take up
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| − | <tdot> lol
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| − | <tdot> no idea
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| − | <northWind> cuz thats going to determine dist. from camera
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| − | <tdot> maybe its variable?
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| − | <tdot> i mean you cant n64 it and get the camera stuck in a wall
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| − | <northWind> ok, so like mouse wheel?
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| − | <tdot> or distance/direction/speed based
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| − | <northWind> well as long as walls aren't too high, we should be ok
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| − | <northWind> and I like distance/direction/speed based
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| − | <northWind> guys any other ideas?
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| − | <tdot> cloud hasnt been saying anything
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| − | <tdot> it would be cool if like
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| − | <tdot> some parts of the map had walls and some didn't
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| − | <tdot> so you'd have to drive carefully
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| − | <tdot> or you'd fall off
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| − | <northWind> yep, i assumed we'd do that so i def. approve
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| − | <northWind> maybe some parts of board are not flat
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| − | <tdot> that too
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| − | <tdot> well
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| − | <tdot> maybe
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| − | <northWind> so like tilted to one side and the bottom side would have no
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| − | walls or something
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| − | <tdot> thats gonna increase the difficulty of coding it
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| − | <northWind> hmmm true
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| − | <northWind> maybe
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| − | <tdot> if its one level and flat
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| − | <northWind> unless our rb collision kicks in
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| − | <tdot> the actual game code isn't gonna be hard
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| − | <tdot> all you really need is 2d collision detection
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| − | <tdot> and some very simple 2d physics
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| − | <tdot> if you start designing curves and tilted areas
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| − | <tdot> youre gonna need to start coding 3d collision detection and
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| − | 3d physics
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| − | <ljubo> one thing I like about this idea in general
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| − | <ljubo> is that we can set some very simple mile-stones
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| − | <ljubo> 1st mile-stone) get a ball rolling in a room
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| − | <northWind> thing is, we may be able to get away w/ levels made in 3ds max
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| − | <tdot> and before you know it, 75% of our work will be on that
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| − | <tdot> lol northWind thats not the point
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| − | <northWind> ljubo: yeah I agree
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| − | <northWind> tdot: our work's gotta go somewhere
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| − | <tdot> lol yeah
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| − | <tdot> into a simple, workable, polished game
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| − | <ljubo> northWind: we can have a wish-list of features that we can
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| − | implement after we hit the first mile-stone
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| − | <northWind> lol polished? rujoking?
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| − | <tdot> no
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| − | <tdot> i think it would be actually easier to polish the game
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| − | <northWind> ljubo: wishlist is a good idea, lets not go crazy tho
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| − | <ljubo> no need to go crazy… we hit the 1st mile-stone, see
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| − | how much time we have left, decide what is the next thing
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| − | we should try, and keep adjusting the wishlist based on what seems
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| − | realistic - and keep reevaluating as we go - but always
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| − | setting achievable mile-stones along the way.
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| − | <tdot> then to attempt to make curves/hills
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| − | <northWind> tdot: hmmm depends on the type of collision in the game
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| − | <tdot> to make like shadowing, and reflections
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| − | <northWind> anyway thats very specific
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| − | <northWind> we dont need to think about that yet i dont think
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| − | <ljubo> remember what chris szalvinsky said
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| − | <northWind> CloudScorpion: you there cloud?
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| − | <ljubo> we could spend hours researching and trying to implement something
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| − | <ljubo> even start coding it
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| − | <ljubo> and if it does not work
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| − | <ljubo> it counts as research
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| − | <ljubo> and we get marks for it
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| − | <tdot> lol hmm
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| − | <northWind> ok then it sounds like we have a number of ideas already
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| − | <northWind> lets think about what we need for tmrw
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| − | <tdot> well all i know is if we keep the levels simple
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| − | <northWind> we need 250 words, informal, rough description of game
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| − | <tdot> its only really a 2d map with 2d math
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| − | <ljubo> I can draft a general proposal EAC397 style
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| − | <tdot> its just drawn as 3d
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| − | <tdot> that would make it pretty simple for us to work with
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| − | <northWind> i think the game will have to be 3d honestly
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| − | <ljubo> 250 is nothing
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| − | <northWind> ljubo: indeed
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| − | <tdot> northWind: not really
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| − | <northWind> ljubo: I got the pics/slideshow, do you want to do the
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| − | informal desc?
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| − | <tdot> the *game* has to be 3d
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| − | <tdot> the map and physics and collision doesnt have to be
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| − | <northWind> tdot: I mean 3d gameplay
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| − | <tdot> i dont think so
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| − | <tdot> i dont see why its required
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| − | <northWind> tdot: I think that you can only get so far w/ 2d gameplay
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| − | <tdot> 'so far'?
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| − | <northWind> tdot: especially in a rolling ball game w/ a tilting board
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| − | <tdot> thats sort of the point
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| − | <tdot> so we can end up with something polished
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| − | <CloudScorpion> lol, you kids seem to be chatting it up just fine,
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| − | I'm cooking dinner :p
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| − | <tdot> something that looks and plays decent
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| − | <ljubo> northWind: sure I can do the proposal
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| − | <tdot> if we attempt to make '3d gameplay' we will end up with a
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| − | nice prototype of a very shitty 3d engine
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| − | <northWind> tdot: like what im saying is, how do you do w/
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| − | only 2d math with a game that involves a ball rolling on a
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| − | board thats tilting in 3 dimensions?
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| − | <tdot> lol
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| − | <tdot> simple
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| − | <tdot> just increase the balls velocity by the direction
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| − | its being tilted
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| − | <northWind> ljubo: k cool, so lets work based on that, use the
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| − | ideas that we developed here, do you approve of them?
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| − | <northWind> ???
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| − | <northWind> tdot: it needs to fall off board
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| − | * ljubo aproves
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| − | <tdot> and the map would be a 2d grid of tiles, with special
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| − | tiles for 3d
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| − | <ljubo> I will copy the irc chat and draft proposal tonight
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| − | <tdot> northWind: yep, when it hits a tile it can fall off of
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| − | (which is a simple 2d calculation) it can fall thru
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| − | <ljubo> I'll email it to all
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| − | <ljubo> and tomorrow you can comment
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| − | <northWind> ljubo: ok
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| − | <ljubo> early in the morning
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| − | <tdot> its still all going to be rendered in 3d
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| − | <ljubo> and I'll have it ready by early afternoon
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| − | <ljubo> is that ok, or do we need it done for class?
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| − | <northWind> tdot: and what about when the board is like tilted
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| − | 15 degrees and the ball needs to accumulate
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| − | velocity in the direction the board is tilted?
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| − | <tdot> lol
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| − | <northWind> ljubo: we need it done for 8 am
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| − | <tdot> what?
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| − | <tdot> you honestly cant figure out how to do that in 2d?
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| − | <ljubo> ok - then do you trust me to do it right without any
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| − | suggested revisions from group?
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| − | <northWind> ljubo: yes I do, I don't see how it can turn out badly
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| − | <tdot> how exactly does tilting it 15 degrees affect the
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| − | height of the ball *at all*
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| − | <northWind> ljubo: I'll be up long tonight, email whenever
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| − | <ljubo> northWind: cool - I'll do that ;)
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| − | <northWind> tdot: tilting the board? it affects it completely
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| − | <tdot> lol
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| − | <tdot> no it doesnt
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| − | <northWind> tdot: hold on, I think you may not know what I'm referring to
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| − | <tdot> the ball is still always against the ground
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| − | <tdot> its height is static
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| − | <northWind> guys, the game im thinking about is essentially this
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| − | <northWind> http://www.officegamespot.com/flashgames/tilt.htm
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| − | <cadecairos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdQQZPQS0r8
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| − | <cadecairos> thats my rebuttal
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| − | <cadecairos> reBUTTal
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| − | <northWind> ljubo: just a sec
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| − | <tdot> lol thats nasty
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| − | <cadecairos> lmfao
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| − | <northWind> https://cs.senecac.on.ca/~gam666/pages/assignments/a1.html
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| − | <tdot> lol yeah exactly
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| − | <tdot> how is that game 3d
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| − | <tdot> its actually really shitty lol
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| − | <tdot> the physics and movement dont feel real at all
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| − | <northWind> yeah I agree
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| − | <northWind> it is shitty
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| − | <tdot> and yeah, thats 2d
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| − | <northWind> what I was thinking about is a game w/ like
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| − | multiple z levels in some places
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| − | <northWind> like you have to drop from one to another
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| − | <tdot> lol yeah
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| − | <tdot> then youre going to increase our development time by 10
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| − | <northWind> kind of like this guy over here
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| − | <northWind> http://www.java-gaming.com/game/3627/Roll_Ball/
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| − | <northWind> feel free to compare and contrast which is shittier lol
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| − | <tdot> we should do something in between the two
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| − | <tdot> anyways theyre probably both 2d
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| − | <tdot> all of the levels in the 2nd one are still on one dimension
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| − | <tdot> they just have the concept of height
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| − | <northWind> level 3 has ramps
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| − | <tdot> lol does it?
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| − | <northWind> im pretty sure they have 3d collision
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| − | <northWind> and in any case, chris said hes giving us collision
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| − | detection I believe so I don't have to do it
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| − | <tdot> meh
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| − | <tdot> for now, lets aim for the first one
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| − | <tdot> i guess if doing one like the 2nd is possible is really
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| − | completely up to what he gives us with the framework
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| − | <northWind> alright Im cool w/ that
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| − | <northWind> ljubo: get all that?
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| − | <tdot> lol im sure ljubo did
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| − | </pre>
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| | =Links= | | =Links= |
| | ==Project Requirements== | | ==Project Requirements== |
| | http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/GAM666/DPS901_Project_requirements_20103 | | http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/GAM666/DPS901_Project_requirements_20103 |
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| | + | ==Meetings== |
| | + | [[mutalisk_meeting_sept_29|Wed, Sept 29 @ 9:00pm]] in Freenode, /join #seneca-students |
