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102 : [12:01] <@fardad> Hello all, | 102 : [12:01] <@fardad> Hello all, | ||
103 : [12:01] <daleee> hio | 103 : [12:01] <daleee> hio | ||
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105 : [12:01] <pbrown9> Allo gov'na | 105 : [12:01] <pbrown9> Allo gov'na | ||
106 : [12:02] <@fardad> if you have just joined, please open http://www.typewith.me/7K3zJ9t97L and type your name in the document and right top in the webpage to get identified | 106 : [12:02] <@fardad> if you have just joined, please open http://www.typewith.me/7K3zJ9t97L and type your name in the document and right top in the webpage to get identified | ||
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129 : [12:10] <@fardad> First: | 129 : [12:10] <@fardad> First: | ||
130 : [12:11] <@fardad> to call someone, your type their nickname and then the word "ping" | 130 : [12:11] <@fardad> to call someone, your type their nickname and then the word "ping" | ||
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132 : [12:11] <@fardad> and the answer is: | 132 : [12:11] <@fardad> and the answer is: | ||
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135 : [12:11] <@fardad> yes, but actually | 135 : [12:11] <@fardad> yes, but actually | ||
136 : [12:11] <@fardad> "fardad: pong!" | 136 : [12:11] <@fardad> "fardad: pong!" | ||
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140 : [12:12] <@fardad> ldchen1: ping? | 140 : [12:12] <@fardad> ldchen1: ping? | ||
141 : [12:12] <ldchen1> fardad:pong! | 141 : [12:12] <ldchen1> fardad:pong! | ||
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173 : [12:17] <daleee> someone new try | 173 : [12:17] <daleee> someone new try | ||
174 : [12:18] <dslessarev> fardad: close the browser? | 174 : [12:18] <dslessarev> fardad: close the browser? | ||
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176 : [12:18] <YDean1__> closed | 176 : [12:18] <YDean1__> closed | ||
177 : [12:18] <@fardad> dslessarev: yes | 177 : [12:18] <@fardad> dslessarev: yes | ||
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223 : [12:27] <tjcatibog> OK | 223 : [12:27] <tjcatibog> OK | ||
224 : [12:27] <jdgrifffith> yupp. | 224 : [12:27] <jdgrifffith> yupp. | ||
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226 : [12:27] <jrobinson7> okie dokie | 226 : [12:27] <jrobinson7> okie dokie | ||
227 : [12:27] <daleee> shows that he isn't talking to himself :p | 227 : [12:27] <daleee> shows that he isn't talking to himself :p | ||
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280 : [12:39] <daleee> yes | 280 : [12:39] <daleee> yes | ||
281 : [12:39] <ChrisCha> ok | 281 : [12:39] <ChrisCha> ok | ||
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283 : [12:39] <@fardad> juanp_1982: what do you mean? | 283 : [12:39] <@fardad> juanp_1982: what do you mean? | ||
284 : [12:39] <Marina_Y> got it | 284 : [12:39] <Marina_Y> got it | ||
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308 : [12:45] <@fardad> is everyone with me? | 308 : [12:45] <@fardad> is everyone with me? | ||
309 : [12:45] <dslessarev> so far | 309 : [12:45] <dslessarev> so far | ||
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311 : [12:45] <Marina_Y> here | 311 : [12:45] <Marina_Y> here | ||
312 : [12:45] <daleee> yes | 312 : [12:45] <daleee> yes | ||
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358 : [12:58] <@fardad_afk> ok everyone | 358 : [12:58] <@fardad_afk> ok everyone | ||
359 : [12:58] <daleee> im so hungry omnomnomnom | 359 : [12:58] <daleee> im so hungry omnomnomnom | ||
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361 : [12:59] <@fardad> daleee: 30 more minutes and you can eat all you want | 361 : [12:59] <@fardad> daleee: 30 more minutes and you can eat all you want | ||
362 : [12:59] <ChrisCha> dalee: either I | 362 : [12:59] <ChrisCha> dalee: either I | ||
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367 : [12:59] <dslessarev> -_- | 367 : [12:59] <dslessarev> -_- | ||
368 : [13:00] <KrazyDre> dang | 368 : [13:00] <KrazyDre> dang | ||
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370 : [13:00] <ldchen1> but we do not have svn account | 370 : [13:00] <ldchen1> but we do not have svn account | ||
371 : [13:00] <KrazyDre> i dont have school tom :@ | 371 : [13:00] <KrazyDre> i dont have school tom :@ | ||
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373 : [13:00] <@fardad> I just (an hour ago) recieved your svn accounts | 373 : [13:00] <@fardad> I just (an hour ago) recieved your svn accounts | ||
374 : [13:00] <lwu11> Can you send us svn account | 374 : [13:00] <lwu11> Can you send us svn account | ||
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376 : [13:00] <pbrown9> Awesome. | 376 : [13:00] <pbrown9> Awesome. | ||
377 : [13:01] <@fardad> and I will send them to you in next hour or so, so check your email | 377 : [13:01] <@fardad> and I will send them to you in next hour or so, so check your email | ||
378 : [13:01] <KrazyDre> suhweet | 378 : [13:01] <KrazyDre> suhweet | ||
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380 : [13:01] <@fardad> and I will extend the due date to thursday so all those not attending this meeting have time to review it | 380 : [13:01] <@fardad> and I will extend the due date to thursday so all those not attending this meeting have time to review it | ||
381 : [13:01] <daleee> fardad: what are the 'C text files' we got to upload to our SVN? | 381 : [13:01] <daleee> fardad: what are the 'C text files' we got to upload to our SVN? | ||
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407 : [13:07] <dslessarev> trunk is for storing ur working compilable version | 407 : [13:07] <dslessarev> trunk is for storing ur working compilable version | ||
408 : [13:07] <ChrisCha> current working directory | 408 : [13:07] <ChrisCha> current working directory | ||
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410 : [13:07] <@fardad> well, it is the last successful compilable version of your project | 410 : [13:07] <@fardad> well, it is the last successful compilable version of your project | ||
411 : [13:07] <pbrown9> The trunk is the most up to date working copy of the (in this case) program. It has to be made sure to compile. | 411 : [13:07] <pbrown9> The trunk is the most up to date working copy of the (in this case) program. It has to be made sure to compile. | ||
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420 : [13:09] <dslessarev> fardad: snapshots of working versions from various points in time | 420 : [13:09] <dslessarev> fardad: snapshots of working versions from various points in time | ||
421 : [13:09] <YDean1> snapshots of success | 421 : [13:09] <YDean1> snapshots of success | ||
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423 : [13:09] <daleee> successful snapshots | 423 : [13:09] <daleee> successful snapshots | ||
424 : [13:09] <@fardad> all: exactly | 424 : [13:09] <@fardad> all: exactly | ||
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442 : [13:13] <@fardad> 3 branches. | 442 : [13:13] <@fardad> 3 branches. | ||
443 : [13:13] <@fardad> and what is branches for? | 443 : [13:13] <@fardad> and what is branches for? | ||
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445 : [13:13] <dslessarev> fardad: its ur workspace, to work on the program | 445 : [13:13] <dslessarev> fardad: its ur workspace, to work on the program | ||
446 : [13:13] <@fardad> dslessarev: exactly | 446 : [13:13] <@fardad> dslessarev: exactly | ||
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466 : [13:19] <KrazyDre> all of this is on typewith me ;) | 466 : [13:19] <KrazyDre> all of this is on typewith me ;) | ||
467 : [13:19] <KrazyDre> **All: | 467 : [13:19] <KrazyDre> **All: | ||
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469 : [13:21] <@fardad> this dir "iolibLNX" is for fsoleima to work on trunk without getting worried to make trunk unusable for others | 469 : [13:21] <@fardad> this dir "iolibLNX" is for fsoleima to work on trunk without getting worried to make trunk unusable for others | ||
470 : [13:21] <@fardad> then iolibLNX is done by "fsoleima" and the linux platform is complete and working, | 470 : [13:21] <@fardad> then iolibLNX is done by "fsoleima" and the linux platform is complete and working, | ||
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473 : [13:23] <@fardad> 1- trunk is updated (so it will have all the changes others made) | 473 : [13:23] <@fardad> 1- trunk is updated (so it will have all the changes others made) | ||
474 : [13:24] <@fardad> 2- iolibLNX is tested for merge to make sure there is no major problems with it | 474 : [13:24] <@fardad> 2- iolibLNX is tested for merge to make sure there is no major problems with it | ||
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477 : [13:25] <@fardad> 3- The actual merge is done and trunk is tested for errors and possible conflicts | 477 : [13:25] <@fardad> 3- The actual merge is done and trunk is tested for errors and possible conflicts | ||
478 : [13:25] <@fardad> 4- possible errors and conflicts are resovled (this is the only time you are allowed to directly work on trunk) | 478 : [13:25] <@fardad> 4- possible errors and conflicts are resovled (this is the only time you are allowed to directly work on trunk) | ||
479 : [13:25] <KrazyDre> Rasinulf: let the teach teach | 479 : [13:25] <KrazyDre> Rasinulf: let the teach teach | ||
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481 : [13:26] <@fardad> 5- trunk is tested again and made sure it is compilable and working | 481 : [13:26] <@fardad> 5- trunk is tested again and made sure it is compilable and working | ||
482 : [13:26] <@fardad> 6- trunk is commited back to repository | 482 : [13:26] <@fardad> 6- trunk is commited back to repository | ||
483 : [13:26] <@fardad> 7 - if conflicts happen, go back to 4 | 483 : [13:26] <@fardad> 7 - if conflicts happen, go back to 4 | ||
484 : [13:27] <@fardad> 8- trunk is branched into tags | 484 : [13:27] <@fardad> 8- trunk is branched into tags | ||
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488 : [13:28] <@fardad> so in other words: | 488 : [13:28] <@fardad> so in other words: | ||
489 : [13:28] <@fardad> Trunk is always in compiled state and the latest "major" success is always taged | 489 : [13:28] <@fardad> Trunk is always in compiled state and the latest "major" success is always taged | ||
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496 : [13:30] <daleee> thanks | 496 : [13:30] <daleee> thanks | ||
497 : [13:30] <daleee> classtime bye all | 497 : [13:30] <daleee> classtime bye all | ||
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499 : [13:30] <YDean1> did we get the svn accounts | 499 : [13:30] <YDean1> did we get the svn accounts | ||
500 : [13:30] <KrazyDre> All: see yall Friday! | 500 : [13:30] <KrazyDre> All: see yall Friday! | ||
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502 : [13:30] <@fardad> Thanks everyone for comming and please let others now to read the notes | 502 : [13:30] <@fardad> Thanks everyone for comming and please let others now to read the notes | ||
503 : [13:30] <jrobinson7> fardad: feel better! | 503 : [13:30] <jrobinson7> fardad: feel better! |
Latest revision as of 16:08, 6 December 2018
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OOP344 lecture for Sep 21st
Participants:
- Fardad Soleimanloo (lecturer)
- Dale Karp (team.h)
- Daniel Slessarev (team.h)
- Carey Hu(team.h)
- Timothy Catibog (Team Recompile)
- Jeshu Donaldson(Team A, Recompile)
- Paul Brown (Team G)
- DongCheol Cha (Team D)
- Ling Wu (Team C)
- James Robinson (Team B)
- Andrei Artamonov (KrazyDre, Team E)
- Oleg Bogomaz(Team B)
- Wei Song( wsong18, Team G)
- Leiding Chen(ldchen1, Team E)
- John Griffith(jdgriffith Team C)
- Juan P. Molina M. (Session C team "X")
Rules of IRC sessions and lectures
Ping Pong
To call someone to talk or attract their attention use:
RecipientNickName: Ping?
And to reply to a ping:
CallerNickName: Pong!
Cross Talking
When and IRC channel is hosting a meeting or a lecture,
Do not cross talk with other participants too much, but if you have to always label your posts to identify who you are talking to:
RecipientNickName: Message e.g Fardad: wassup?
Make sure your don't over do it, because this creates lots of noise.
Public Talking
If you want to post something for everyone, don't label it. But if you want to attract everyone's attention then label it with something like;
All or Everyone: Message e.g All: wassup?
/me
If you want to mention something about yourself in "third person form" use "/me";
/me Message (talk about yourself) /me is listening = YourNickName is listening
Acknowledgement
When in a meeting make sure you acknowledge the lecturer or the chair by dropping an "ok" (or something similar) to show you are listening.
/query
In a meeting or a lecture don't do too much "cross talk" but if you have to then.
Use /query NickName to open a private chat and talk to him/her directly.
pastebin
Do not copy and paste big chunks of code in a channel instead use a service like www.pastebin.com to share your code with your peers
IRC meetings' nature
Understand that IRC meetings and lectures are much more slow than face to face meetings and lectures, So you must be patient.
But in return, irc lectures and meetings are never forgotten because they are "by nature" documented and can be reviewed very easily.
tinyurl.com
Do not copy and page very long URLs on the channel, instead use services like tinyurl.com to shorten a long url.
/nick (to show your current status)
use /nick to change your nick to show your status, for example:
/nick fardad_afk : this meand fardad is "away from keyboard"
Asignment First delivarable:
(Due: Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 12:00 pm) login to your svn account and create directories needed to start the development.
SVN repository
Trunk
The trunk is the most up to date working copy of the (in this case) program. It has to be made sure to compile.(The root of your project.)
Tags
Successful snapshots of your program. (e.g prj0.01, prj0.1, prj0.6, prj1.0);
Branches
Your personal workspace for the project
When you think you finished a project that is due, you branch (copy) the trunk (that is the successful compilable verion of your project) into prjx.x in tags for your prof to mark. (x.x is the release number of your prject, for example prj0.1)
now if after branching in tag you notice, more things are needed, you branch a new one in tag after that under prj0.11, prj.0.12 and so on.
At marking time, your prof will mark the latest release of your milestone (milestone is another name for a dir in tags)
Creating your workspace:
Essentially, what you do is this:
in branches:
- First you create a dir under your learn id (learn id: Seneca email id)
- Then you branch a copy of trunk into your "learnid" dir under a name that relates to the goal that workspace was made for:
- If you are working on iolib linux platfrom, For example a good name will be: iolibLNX.
- So the path for it would be: (if I am a student and my learn id is fsoleima)
- reporoot/branches/fsoleima/iolbLNX
- This action is called "branching trunk into a workspace"
- This dir "iolibLNX" is for fsoleima to work on trunk without getting worried to make trunk unusable for others. then iolibLNX is done by "fsoleima" and the linux platform is complete and working, fsoleima will "merge" back the "iolibLNX" into trunk.
- Merging:
- Trunk is updated (so it will have all the changes others made)
- IolibLNX is tested for merge to make sure there is no major problems with it
- The actual merge is done and trunk is tested for errors and possible conflicts
- Possible errors and conflicts are resovled (this is the only time you are allowed to directly work on trunk)
- Trunk is tested again and made sure it is compilable and working
- Trunk is commited back to repository
- If conflicts happen, go back to 4
- Trunk is branched into tags
- Trunk is always in compiled state and the latest "major" success is always tagged.
Lecture logs
102 : [12:01] <@fardad> Hello all, 103 : [12:01] <daleee> hio 105 : [12:01] <pbrown9> Allo gov'na 106 : [12:02] <@fardad> if you have just joined, please open http://www.typewith.me/7K3zJ9t97L and type your name in the document and right top in the webpage to get identified 107 : [12:02] <KrazyDre> lmao tdot 108 : [12:02] <@fardad> s/and right/at right 109 : [12:03] <ChrisCha> fardad: why there is no my name on right top menu 110 : [12:03] <pbrown9> ChrisCha: You can't see your own name in the list. It's there though. 111 : [12:03] <ChrisCha> Got it! 112 : [12:04] <@fardad> ok, could you please in the public document, type your team name in front of your hame 113 : [12:04] <@fardad> Sorry add your team AFTER your name 114 : [12:04] <KrazyDre> fardad: Are there labs or workshops in OOP344? 115 : [12:05] <dslessarev> maybe we should use same colors for teams? 116 : [12:05] <@fardad> Thanks 117 : [12:05] <@fardad> let me check and see if at least one person is here from each team.... 118 : [12:05] <ChrisCha> am I only person for team D? ><D 119 : [12:06] <daleee> pwnd 120 : [12:07] <@fardad> That is ok 121 : [12:07] <@fardad> ok, 122 : [12:07] <pbrown9> I got an email from one of my team this morning. I wonder why he's not here. 123 : [12:07] <daleee> he's playing hooky... internet hooky 124 : [12:07] <@fardad> hi ldchen1 125 : [12:08] <@fardad> if you have just joined, please open http://www.typewith.me/7K3zJ9t97L and type your name in the document at right top in the webpage to get identified also add your name to the public document like others 126 : [12:09] <@fardad> before we begin, lets set few ground rules 127 : [12:10] <ldchen1> Hi 128 : [12:10] <@fardad> These ground rules are not rules, but mostly tradition in IRC chatting in opensource professional world 129 : [12:10] <@fardad> First: 130 : [12:11] <@fardad> to call someone, your type their nickname and then the word "ping" 132 : [12:11] <@fardad> and the answer is: 135 : [12:11] <@fardad> yes, but actually 136 : [12:11] <@fardad> "fardad: pong!" 140 : [12:12] <@fardad> ldchen1: ping? 141 : [12:12] <ldchen1> fardad:pong! 142 : [12:12] <ChrisCha> fardad:ping? 143 : [12:12] <@fardad> there we go... 144 : [12:12] <@fardad> ChrisCha: pong! 145 : [12:12] <@fardad> ok 146 : [12:12] <@fardad> next thing 147 : [12:13] <@fardad> as you see in a channel there are sometimes 100s of people online and this may cause lots of cross talking 148 : [12:13] <@fardad> to make sure they don't mix 149 : [12:13] <@fardad> when you are talking to someing sepecific your add their nick at the begining, like; 150 : [12:14] <@fardad> jdgrifffith: please open http://www.typewith.me/7K3zJ9t97L and type your name in the document at right top in the webpage to get identified also add your name to the public document like others 151 : [12:14] <@fardad> by doing this I just told jdgrifffith what to do, but not others 152 : [12:15] <ldchen1> hi, I try to open http://www.typewith.me/7K3zJ9t97L this link, but it is full 153 : [12:15] <@fardad> if you have somehthing public to say, like asking for help, then of course no nick is needed or "all:" or "everyone:" is used 154 : [12:15] <@fardad> ldchen1: doe it say it is full? 155 : [12:15] <KrazyDre> lol 156 : [12:15] <ldchen1> all: yes, it's full 157 : [12:16] <jrobinson7> KrazyDre is listed in there twice 158 : [12:16] <dslessarev> troll 159 : [12:16] <daleee> lol 160 : [12:16] <@fardad> mmmmmmm! 161 : [12:16] <@fardad> damn 162 : [12:16] <@fardad> ok, 163 : [12:16] <@fardad> no problem 164 : [12:16] <KrazyDre> jrobinson:ya i refreshed it, but im still there 165 : [12:17] <@fardad> Dale, 166 : [12:17] <@fardad> sorry 167 : [12:17] <daleee> fardad: for what? :s 168 : [12:17] <@fardad> Dale, Daniel, Carey, Jose, Timothy, jeshu: please close your docuemnt so others can write their name there 169 : [12:17] <jrobinson7> KrazyDre: ahh jus thought id mention it incase it could help 170 : [12:17] <daleee> ok 171 : [12:17] <daleee> closed 172 : [12:17] <tjcatibog> fardad: done. 173 : [12:17] <daleee> someone new try 174 : [12:18] <dslessarev> fardad: close the browser? 176 : [12:18] <YDean1__> closed 177 : [12:18] <@fardad> dslessarev: yes 178 : [12:18] <dslessarev> done 179 : [12:18] <chu7> closed 180 : [12:18] <pbrown9> lwu11: You can only see other's names in the document, your own is hidden. 181 : [12:19] <KrazyDre> juanp_1982: if you have just joined, please open http://www.typewith.me/7K3zJ9t97L and type your name in the document at right top in the webpage to get identified also add your name to the public document like others 182 : [12:19] <jdgrifffith> okay, sorry so once i get the page open I just type my full name in that box? 183 : [12:19] <KrazyDre> johnny: ya and add ur name to the list 184 : [12:19] <KrazyDre> johnny: along with your team name 185 : [12:19] <juanp_1982> thanks 186 : [12:19] <dslessarev> i'd like a copy of the notes in the end though, thx 187 : [12:19] <KrazyDre> juanp: no worries 188 : [12:20] <KrazyDre> dslessarev: use the import/export on the top right of the webpage 189 : [12:20] <@fardad> I will put everything on the document and post it on wiki afterwards, don't worry 190 : [12:20] <pbrown9> dslessarev: You can use import/export to get the document afterwards. 191 : [12:20] <dslessarev> krazydre: i left though 192 : [12:20] <KrazyDre> dslessarev: oh ok, fardad said hell post it up on wiki 193 : [12:20] <pbrown9> dslessarev: You can rejoin it afterwards and grab it. 194 : [12:21] <dslessarev> pbrown9: yeh, i rejoined 195 : [12:21] <@fardad> AND please not chat on the public document, do the chat in HERE only 196 : [12:21] <KrazyDre> corss talking :D 197 : [12:22] <pbrown9> Don't talk to eachother in person either, it's not fair to us eavesdroppers. 198 : [12:22] <@fardad> KrazyDre: don't laugh at it, fix it :) 199 : [12:22] <dslessarev> krazydre: lol 200 : [12:22] <@fardad> next rule of IRC lectures 201 : [12:22] <KrazyDre> fardard: oh no way, i didn't think i could:P 202 : [12:22] <@fardad> and chating 203 : [12:23] <jdgrifffith> sorry, how do you private message someone again? 204 : [12:23] <daleee> jdgrifffith: /msg username msg 205 : [12:23] <@fardad> when you want to talk about your self type /me whatever and /me will be replaced with your nick 206 : [12:23] <@fardad> try it 207 : [12:23] <wsong18> ping ldchen1 208 : [12:23] <ChrisCha> chrischa: selftest 209 : [12:24] <@fardad> wsong18: it is not ping ldchen1, it is "ldchen1: ping?" 210 : [12:24] <KrazyDre> pbrown: lies 211 : [12:24] <KrazyDre> |^^LOL 212 : [12:25] <ldchen1> wsong18:pong 213 : [12:25] <@fardad> and that least to next topic 214 : [12:25] <@fardad> s/least/leads 215 : [12:25] <wsong18> thanks, I got it. 216 : [12:25] <dslessarev> fardad: sorry what is this format s/least/leads 217 : [12:25] <daleee> dslessarev: its search/replace in unix/linux 218 : [12:25] <wsong18> ldchen1:ping? 219 : [12:27] <@fardad> when you are in an IRC lecture where a channel is temporarily dedicated to it, every now and then acknowledge the lecturer by dorping an "OK" , or "got it" ,etc 220 : [12:27] <@fardad> this shows your presence 221 : [12:27] <@fardad> ok? 222 : [12:27] <dslessarev> got it 223 : [12:27] <tjcatibog> OK 224 : [12:27] <jdgrifffith> yupp. 226 : [12:27] <jrobinson7> okie dokie 227 : [12:27] <daleee> shows that he isn't talking to himself :p 228 : [12:27] <YDean1__> ok 229 : [12:27] <ChrisCha> ok 230 : [12:27] <ldchen1> ok 231 : [12:27] <obogomaz> ok 232 : [12:27] <@fardad> daleee: exactly 233 : [12:27] <Marina_Y> ok 234 : [12:27] <daleee> lol 235 : [12:27] <lwu11> got it 236 : [12:27] <juanp_1982> ok 237 : [12:28] <@fardad> now 238 : [12:28] <pbrown9> okie dokie wins 239 : [12:28] <dslessarev> unlike real lectures, where u can pretend to listen :( 240 : [12:28] <daleee> lol 241 : [12:28] <pbrown9> dslessarev: tsk tsk 242 : [12:28] <dslessarev> pbrown9: not me of course :) 243 : [12:28] <@fardad> remember NOT to over do this. too many OKs will cause noise :) 244 : [12:28] <KrazyDre> got it prof 245 : [12:28] <@fardad> also 246 : [12:30] <@fardad> in a lecture 247 : [12:30] <@fardad> too many jokes or cross talking is rude and childish 248 : [12:30] <@fardad> although every now and then it is refreshing to say somehing cool, but again, don't over od it 249 : [12:30] <@fardad> s/od/do 250 : [12:30] <dslessarev> got it 251 : [12:31] <KrazyDre> vovko: if you have just joined, please open http://www.typewith.me/7K3zJ9t97L and type your name in the document at right top in the webpage to get identified also add your name to the public document like others 252 : [12:31] <@fardad> next thing 253 : [12:32] <KrazyDre> xD 254 : [12:32] <@fardad> if you have to talk to another participant of the IRC lecture, and don't want to create cross talking 255 : [12:33] <@fardad> use "/query nickname" to open a private chat and talking to him/her directly 256 : [12:33] <pbrown9> Next class you can. 257 : [12:33] <pbrown9> I'm sure you demonstrated this during the first lecture though. 258 : [12:34] <@fardad> pbrown9: that is right.... 259 : [12:34] <@fardad> next one: 260 : [12:35] <@fardad> if what it being lectured needs bunch of code to be represented, do not copy and paste the code in the channel, because it is very noisy and disturbing 261 : [12:35] <@fardad> i.e: don't do this: 262 : [12:35] <@fardad> #include "iol.h" 263 : [12:35] <@fardad> #ifndef _CRT_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS 264 : [12:35] <@fardad> #define _CRT_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS 1 265 : [12:35] <@fardad> #endif 266 : [12:35] <@fardad> #if IOL_PLATFORM == PLT_VCC 267 : [12:35] <@fardad> #include <windows.h> 268 : [12:35] <@fardad> #include <conio.h> 269 : [12:35] <@fardad> HANDLE consh; 270 : [12:36] <@fardad> CONSOLE_SCREEN_BUFFER_INFO bufinfo; 271 : [12:36] <@fardad> void iol_init(void){ 272 : [12:36] <@fardad> instead do this: 273 : [12:36] <dslessarev> holy spam 274 : [12:36] <daleee> lol 275 : [12:37] <@fardad> here is the code for iol.c 276 : [12:37] <@fardad> http://pastebin.com/DuZ3sDie 277 : [12:38] <@fardad> use services like patebin to pass around text 278 : [12:38] <juanp_1982> anyone in here? 279 : [12:39] <@fardad> got it? 280 : [12:39] <daleee> yes 281 : [12:39] <ChrisCha> ok 283 : [12:39] <@fardad> juanp_1982: what do you mean? 284 : [12:39] <Marina_Y> got it 285 : [12:39] <ldchen1> yes 286 : [12:39] <YDean1> yep 287 : [12:39] <juanp_1982> i mean that i didn't see any message for over 8 minutes... 288 : [12:39] <juanp_1982> :-( 289 : [12:39] <pbrown9> juanp1982: Only mentally. 290 : [12:40] <juanp_1982> ok 291 : [12:40] <@fardad> which brings us to next topic 292 : [12:40] <lwu11> ok 293 : [12:41] <@fardad> Understand that IRC meetings and lectures are much more slow than face to face meetings and lectures 294 : [12:41] <@fardad> so you must be patient 295 : [12:41] <@fardad> but in return, irc lectures and meetings are never forgotten because they are "by nature" documented and can be reviewed verly easily 296 : [12:42] <@fardad> which brings us to next topic: 297 : [12:42] <@fardad> if you have to post a url in the channel and it is too long like; 298 : [12:42] <@fardad> http://fardad.com/irclogs/Default.aspx?co=1&log=%23seneca-oop344.freenode.20100921&u1=All+Users&u2=No+One+Else&u3=No+One+Else&u4=No+One+Else 299 : [12:42] <@fardad> instead 300 : [12:42] <@fardad> do this 301 : [12:43] <dslessarev> tinyurl lol ? 302 : [12:43] <daleee> or bit.ly 303 : [12:43] <@fardad> http://tinyurl.com/oop344sep21 304 : [12:43] <@fardad> use services like tinyrul.com to shorten the url 305 : [12:43] <@fardad> by the way 306 : [12:44] <@fardad> the link is sent, is the log of todays meeting on my server 307 : [12:44] <@fardad> s/the link is sent,/the link sent, 308 : [12:45] <@fardad> is everyone with me? 309 : [12:45] <dslessarev> so far 311 : [12:45] <Marina_Y> here 312 : [12:45] <daleee> yes 313 : [12:45] <jrobinson7> yup yup 314 : [12:45] <juanp_1982> yes 315 : [12:45] <chu7> yah 316 : [12:45] <YDean1> ya 317 : [12:45] <obogomaz> still here 318 : [12:45] <ChrisCha> Yes 319 : [12:46] <tjcatibog> yep 320 : [12:46] <@fardad> and the rest are sleeping 321 : [12:46] <dslessarev> :) 322 : [12:46] <jrobinson7> wish i was too 323 : [12:46] <lwu11> Yes 324 : [12:47] <pbrown9> I'm avidly paying attention. 325 : [12:47] <ldchen1> do you mean we need to go to tinyurl.com this website 326 : [12:47] <daleee> ldchen1: only if you want to shorten a url which is very long 327 : [12:47] <wsong18> yes 328 : [12:47] <pbrown9> ldchen1: if you want to post a super long url, tinyurl will shorten it for you. You post the url in there and it'll create a redirect to it. 329 : [12:48] <@fardad> ldchen1: if you have a url that is too long, you can enter it there and it will give you a link to shorten your url by redirecting 330 : [12:48] <@fardad> :) 331 : [12:48] <@fardad> yes 332 : [12:48] <@fardad> now 333 : [12:48] <ldchen1> pbrown9: thanks 334 : [12:48] <@fardad> ldchen1: shorten the url of seneca website and paste the link here :) 335 : [12:49] <@fardad> so far, these were what I could recal about IRC meetings 336 : [12:50] <@fardad> now we are going to take a 5 minute break and continue afterwards 337 : [12:50] <KrazyDre> lol 338 : [12:50] <@fardad> see you at 12:57 339 : [12:50] <ChrisCha> d:-) 340 : [12:50] <pbrown9> Sounds to me like sandwich time. 341 : [12:51] <YDean1> cool 342 : [12:51] <ChrisCha> +! 343 : [12:51] <dslessarev> peanut butter jelly time! 344 : [12:51] <ldchen1> the url for wiki home: http://tinyurl.com/239mw2o 345 : [12:52] <dslessarev> ldchen1: right on 346 : [12:52] <ChrisCha> still nobody comes in Team D :P 347 : [12:55] <KrazyDre> ChrisCha: lool 348 : [12:56] <ChrisCha> :D 349 : [12:57] <pbrown9> I bet I'm the only one that got a sandwich. :o 350 : [12:57] <pbrown9> Your sandwich has beaten my sandwich. 351 : [12:57] <jdgrifffith> lol. 352 : [12:57] <dslessarev> :O its 12:57 353 : [12:58] <KrazyDre> pbrown: lool, whatd u have? 354 : [12:58] <pbrown9> Cheese whiz 355 : [12:58] <@fardad_afk> hello all 356 : [12:58] <dslessarev> wb 357 : [12:58] <KrazyDre> u kno u waantt it 358 : [12:58] <@fardad_afk> ok everyone 359 : [12:58] <daleee> im so hungry omnomnomnom 361 : [12:59] <@fardad> daleee: 30 more minutes and you can eat all you want 362 : [12:59] <ChrisCha> dalee: either I 363 : [12:59] <daleee> lol okay 364 : [12:59] <daleee> :p 365 : [12:59] <@fardad> ok 366 : [12:59] <@fardad> an about your first assignment that is due tomorrow noon :) 367 : [12:59] <dslessarev> -_- 368 : [13:00] <KrazyDre> dang 370 : [13:00] <ldchen1> but we do not have svn account 371 : [13:00] <KrazyDre> i dont have school tom :@ 372 : [13:00] <daleee> lol 373 : [13:00] <@fardad> I just (an hour ago) recieved your svn accounts 374 : [13:00] <lwu11> Can you send us svn account 376 : [13:00] <pbrown9> Awesome. 377 : [13:01] <@fardad> and I will send them to you in next hour or so, so check your email 378 : [13:01] <KrazyDre> suhweet 380 : [13:01] <@fardad> and I will extend the due date to thursday so all those not attending this meeting have time to review it 381 : [13:01] <daleee> fardad: what are the 'C text files' we got to upload to our SVN? 382 : [13:01] <lwu11> Thanks 383 : [13:02] <dslessarev> so thursday? 384 : [13:03] <KrazyDre> tjcatibog: if you have just joined, please open http://www.typewith.me/7K3zJ9t97L and type your name in the document at right top in the webpage to get identified also add your name to the public document like others 385 : [13:03] <dslessarev> KrazyDre: u're a bot :P 386 : [13:03] <tjcatibog> KrazyDre: got disconnected, but thanks anyway 387 : [13:04] <pbrown9> Yeah, look at the time. KrazyDre is definitely cheating with a bot. 388 : [13:04] <KrazyDre> lmao 389 : [13:04] <KrazyDre> yall r haters 390 : [13:04] <@fardad> ok "cross talk" remember? 391 : [13:04] <daleee> lol 392 : [13:05] <KrazyDre> fardad: what do you mean by Checkout, update, commit 393 : [13:05] <KrazyDre> ? 394 : [13:05] <@fardad> For the svn there is a dir sturcture that you have to create 395 : [13:05] <@fardad> I will create the initial ones for you but you should create the rest yourself 396 : [13:06] <@fardad> it the root of your svn I will create 3 dir (listen carefuly for your quiz on friday) 397 : [13:06] <@fardad> 1- Trunk: 398 : [13:06] <@fardad> What is trunk for? 399 : [13:06] <KrazyDre> YDean1: Checkout, update, commit 400 : [13:06] <KrazyDre> damn 401 : [13:06] <daleee> lol 402 : [13:07] <KrazyDre> YDean1: if you have just joined, please open http://www.typewith.me/7K3zJ9t97L and type your name in the document at right top in the webpage to get identified also add your name to the public document like others 403 : [13:07] <@fardad> 1- Trunk: 404 : [13:07] <@fardad> What is trunk for? 405 : [13:07] <KrazyDre> fardad: base of the directory? 406 : [13:07] <jdgrifffith> the final product? 407 : [13:07] <dslessarev> trunk is for storing ur working compilable version 408 : [13:07] <ChrisCha> current working directory 410 : [13:07] <@fardad> well, it is the last successful compilable version of your project 411 : [13:07] <pbrown9> The trunk is the most up to date working copy of the (in this case) program. It has to be made sure to compile. 412 : [13:07] <dslessarev> eh, sry, not storing 413 : [13:07] <@fardad> dslessarev: yes 414 : [13:08] <@fardad> so, there should not be any directories of any kind in thre 415 : [13:08] <@fardad> trunk is the root of your project 416 : [13:08] <@fardad> 2 tags: 417 : [13:08] <@fardad> what is tags for? 418 : [13:09] <jdgrifffith> to store the versions of your program? 419 : [13:09] <jrobinson7> fardad: successful trunk files 420 : [13:09] <dslessarev> fardad: snapshots of working versions from various points in time 421 : [13:09] <YDean1> snapshots of success 423 : [13:09] <daleee> successful snapshots 424 : [13:09] <@fardad> all: exactly 425 : [13:09] <@fardad> and what your see will be : 426 : [13:09] <@fardad> lots of prjx.xx 427 : [13:10] <@fardad> prj0.1, prj0.11 and so on 428 : [13:11] <@fardad> when I say, prj0.1 is due, it means when you think it is done, you branch (copy) the trunk (that is the successful compilable verion of your project) into prj0.1 in tags for me to mark 429 : [13:11] <@fardad> now if after branching in tag you notice, more things are needed 430 : [13:11] <@fardad> you branch a new one in tag after that under prj0.11, prj.0.12 and so on 431 : [13:12] <@fardad> at marking time, I will mark the latest release of your milestone (milestone is another name for a dir in tags) 432 : [13:12] <@fardad> are we ok? 433 : [13:12] <daleee> yup 434 : [13:13] <ChrisCha> ok! 435 : [13:13] <KrazyDre> comprende 436 : [13:13] <Marina_Y> ok 437 : [13:13] <tjcatibog> ok 438 : [13:13] <chu7> ok 439 : [13:13] <@fardad> ok, 440 : [13:13] <YDean1> ok 441 : [13:13] <ldchen1> ok 442 : [13:13] <@fardad> 3 branches. 443 : [13:13] <@fardad> and what is branches for? 445 : [13:13] <dslessarev> fardad: its ur workspace, to work on the program 446 : [13:13] <@fardad> dslessarev: exactly 447 : [13:14] <@fardad> sometimes people call it as sandbox 448 : [13:14] <@fardad> :) 449 : [13:14] <@fardad> but mostly it is called a directory to keep "workspaces" in 450 : [13:14] <@fardad> or 451 : [13:15] <@fardad> simply the place for individual developers (or even in larger scales) and teams work on different copies of trunk 452 : [13:15] <@fardad> so 453 : [13:15] <@fardad> esentially, what you do is this: 454 : [13:16] <@fardad> in branches: 455 : [13:16] <@fardad> first you create a dir under your learn id 456 : [13:16] <@fardad> learn id: Seneca email id 457 : [13:17] <@fardad> then you branch a copy of trunk into your "learnid" dir under a name that relates to the goal that workspace was made for: 458 : [13:17] <@fardad> if you are working on iolib linux platfrom: 459 : [13:17] <@fardad> for example 460 : [13:17] <@fardad> and good name will be: iolibLNX 461 : [13:18] <@fardad> so the path for it would be: (if I am a student and my learn id is fsoleima) 462 : [13:18] <@fardad> reporoot/branches/fsoleima/iolbLNX 463 : [13:18] <@fardad> this action is called "branching trunk into a workspace" 464 : [13:19] <pbrown9> aye 465 : [13:19] <ChrisCha> so you mena svn/brances/myseneid/iolbLNX/source files is right? 466 : [13:19] <KrazyDre> all of this is on typewith me ;) 467 : [13:19] <KrazyDre> **All: 469 : [13:21] <@fardad> this dir "iolibLNX" is for fsoleima to work on trunk without getting worried to make trunk unusable for others 470 : [13:21] <@fardad> then iolibLNX is done by "fsoleima" and the linux platform is complete and working, 471 : [13:22] <@fardad> fsoleima will "merge" back the "iolibLNX" into trunk 472 : [13:23] <@fardad> merging is done in these steps: 473 : [13:23] <@fardad> 1- trunk is updated (so it will have all the changes others made) 474 : [13:24] <@fardad> 2- iolibLNX is tested for merge to make sure there is no major problems with it 477 : [13:25] <@fardad> 3- The actual merge is done and trunk is tested for errors and possible conflicts 478 : [13:25] <@fardad> 4- possible errors and conflicts are resovled (this is the only time you are allowed to directly work on trunk) 479 : [13:25] <KrazyDre> Rasinulf: let the teach teach 481 : [13:26] <@fardad> 5- trunk is tested again and made sure it is compilable and working 482 : [13:26] <@fardad> 6- trunk is commited back to repository 483 : [13:26] <@fardad> 7 - if conflicts happen, go back to 4 484 : [13:27] <@fardad> 8- trunk is branched into tags 488 : [13:28] <@fardad> so in other words: 489 : [13:28] <@fardad> Trunk is always in compiled state and the latest "major" success is always taged 490 : [13:28] <@fardad> Any question people? 491 : [13:28] <daleee> nopw 492 : [13:29] <tjcatibog> none that I can think of at the moment 493 : [13:29] <jrobinson7> im good 494 : [13:30] <@fardad> ok everyone, this is it for today, i will post these notes and you have a quiz on it on friday.... 495 : [13:30] <daleee> okay 496 : [13:30] <daleee> thanks 497 : [13:30] <daleee> classtime bye all 499 : [13:30] <YDean1> did we get the svn accounts 500 : [13:30] <KrazyDre> All: see yall Friday! 502 : [13:30] <@fardad> Thanks everyone for comming and please let others now to read the notes 503 : [13:30] <jrobinson7> fardad: feel better! 504 : [13:31] <ChrisCha> I have a question for Friday quiz? 505 : [13:31] <pbrown9> He'll be back to normal and yelling at us in no time. 506 : [13:31] <obogomaz> Good day all 507 : [13:31] <@fardad> KrazyDre: thanks for helping, it is noted as big contribution for you 508 : [13:31] <Marina_Y> thanks! 509 : [13:31] <tjcatibog> all: goodbye 510 : [13:31] <YDean1> quit